Transfers

[muskieman]

I think we can all admit that Canty should have seen more PT at the end of the season especially with his defensive ability. Robinson played the 3 the last two games and was not effective. More I can understand, but two in the same class causes concern.

I think your 'all" is a little premature. I wish Canty might have seen more playing time toward the end of the season but wishing doesn't mean SHOULD. I guess you were at the practices to make such a definitive statement and saw something the coaching staff didn't see.

[Prosserian]

Sure, you can't predict how players will adapt or fit into a system, and new recruits can always change things. However, the end affect is not good when multiple players transfer in the course of the year, and I do think that communication to the players (aka kids) is crucial. I can't determine how much is the coaching staff's fault, but I'm not ready to absolve them of any responsibility like some have already.

[thecoach]

it's never good to lose two freshman who've spent a year in your system and logged playing time. balancing out classes kind of dictates that you're likely to have to go to some jc guys to fill gaps and they will be new to the system, and also i find it very odd that both of them would leave. they may not like having to hit the books for one. however, i suspect there are also some personality differences. it's like we've discussed before, graduating to higher level recruits is a double edge sword. they really aren't in a situation either were they have roadblocks from a roster standpoint to get playing time. starting to look like another short roster year. if i had to predict one of those guys who would have left i would have expect mackenzie to be the one.

[XUFan09]

I think we can all admit that Canty should have seen more PT at the end of the season especially with his defensive ability. Robinson played the 3 the last two games and was not effective. More I can understand, but two in the same class causes concern.

I think your 'all" is a little premature. I wish Canty might have seen more playing time toward the end of the season but wishing doesn't mean SHOULD. I guess you were at the practices to make such a definitive statement and saw something the coaching staff didn't see.

You also have to remember that the coaching staff changed things up after the UC game, so Canty was injured when the new system was being put into place (right at the point when he looked comfortable with the old system). So, when he got healthy, he had to getin shape again, get back into the rhythm of playing, AND learn the new things implemented. That's something that I could see an upperclassman doing fairly well but a freshman having trouble with (with the exception of top-notch freshman like Kyrie Irving).

[wkrq59]

Okay, for all the Chicken Littles. Remember back in Sean's first year. A kid named Churchill Odia and another backup point guard who was brought in as a hedge on the possibility that Odia would not get his visa???I recall the fire storm that occurred when after a 17-12 season, both transferred and Sean was to be sent to the woodshed and pilloried or whatever and Xavier was headed for disaster. No tournament, woe is me.
Boys and girls, the poor as the good Lord said, "You will always have with you." Stop and think a minute
Ari Stewart was a highly sought recruit who signed with Wake Forest and passed up Xavier. Now we'll welcome him and he'll have to sit out a year and create a log jam at the 3 or 2 during the 2012-2013 season. But come on down Ari. As far as Sim Bhular is concerned, if he is Xavier bound for the 2011-12 season, his chances of playing a huge role next season are slim to none and , well you know the rest. That takes Xavier to fousing on 2012-13 class. I recommend the kid from Oak Hill Academy, Hammonds. Saw him play on tV the other night. He is a 6-10 stud who has a year left to hone his skills and Xavier is among his interested.
From what I can see, the coaching staff has been doing its best with a really improved group of talented players that hitherto, Xavier could not even get in the door for a home visit, let alone get a commitment or a signed letter from.
The remaining two members of this sophomore-to-be class , Justin Martin and Griffin McKenzie, both have bright futures at Xavier. Remember how tenuous Duncan was? I see him in McKenzie. Martin just had the misfortune of playing at a high school in Indianapolis where a poor academic regimen (basketball first) forced him to spend his senior year elsewhere and between the two miss having one of the course he took at the new not be accepted by the NCAA, which should be checking out his Indianapolis High School and its coach.
Yes, it's disappointing, but it's not a tragedy. The true loss is Canty. He could have been a defensive stopper. Ther plus side is more PT for Jeff Robinson at the 4 and possibly more time for Griffin at the 3.
It could be worse.

[jct1941]

Wkrq59 - I agree with you. We now have Tu, Lyons, Redford, and Davis at guards. We have Taylor, Martin, Wells, and McKenzie on the wings. We have Frease, Robinson, and Reynolds as front court players. So, barring any BAD luck (like last year) such as injuries, ineligibility or some other disaster we will have flexibility and backs ups at every position. Latham had to bang against Frease, McLean and even Robinson at practise and probably got overwhelmed and could not see it getting any better. I do wish that Canty would have stayed but he must have not seen that to be in his best interest. With Frease, Robinson, Tu,and Lyons we have a solid base and should give the new players time to the adjust to the system and be productive. Everyone that posts here realizes that recruiting is a crap shoot and that some players exceed expections (West) and some do not pan out (Wolf and Walsh) and move on. As Wkrq59 stated the 2012 class is now the most important and could end up getting players that are even better than the ones who departed. Time will tell. Go Xavier!

[Xavier13]

There is no concerns with these two leaving. With Wells coming in, Martin being eligible, and DSR probably coming in the following year, Canty would be battling for the SF spot for 3 years. Playing time is just really slim at that the wing. I can see why he is looking for a better opportunity to play. I think Wells is gonna see a lot of minutes next year. Latham is a bit surprising but there are a lot of bigs fighting for 2 spots. I've heard a couple times that he never showed any desire or work ethic throughout the year, probably why we saw McKenzie come in at times over him. Either way Xavier is going to be very talented next season.

Gonna be an interesting month or so to see what the staff does. I would like to see them either get a transfer or a '11 recruit and save a scholarship for '12. Hopefully get back DSR at the end of the summer, another big, and throw everything we got at Kyle Anderson and try and hit a homerun with him.

[thewoodslives]

I think we can all admit that Canty should have seen more PT at the end of the season especially with his defensive ability. Robinson played the 3 the last two games and was not effective. More I can understand, but two in the same class causes concern.

I think your 'all" is a little premature. I wish Canty might have seen more playing time toward the end of the season but wishing doesn't mean SHOULD. I guess you were at the practices to make such a definitive statement and saw something the coaching staff didn't see.

YOU'RE RIGHT MUSKIEMAN. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN AT THE PRACTICES, SINCE ANYONE ON HERE WHO SAYS ANYTHING THAT ISN'T KISSING MACK'S BEHINDS YOU REPRIMAND THEM AS ONLY A GOOD DEN MOTHER KNOWS HOW. THIS WAS A GREAT RECRUITING CLASS BY ALL MEANS, GREAT JOB COACH MACK. 4 FRESHMAN, 1 INELIGIBLE, AND 3 WHO NEVER PLAYED. NOW 2 ARE LEAVING, YES MUSKIEMAN THIS IS INDEED A FRESHMAN CLASS TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY......

[muskieman]

There is no concerns with these two leaving. With Wells coming in, Martin being eligible, and DSR probably coming in the following year, Canty would be battling for the SF spot for 3 years. Playing time is just really slim at that the wing. I can see why he is looking for a better opportunity to play. I think Wells is gonna see a lot of minutes next year. Latham is a bit surprising but there are a lot of bigs fighting for 2 spots. I've heard a couple times that he never showed any desire or work ethic throughout the year, probably why we saw McKenzie come in at times over him. Either way Xavier is going to be very talented next season.

Gonna be an interesting month or so to see what the staff does. I would like to see them either get a transfer or a '11 recruit and save a scholarship for '12. Hopefully get back DSR at the end of the summer, another big, and throw everything we got at Kyle Anderson and try and hit a homerun with him.

DSR and Kyle Anderson would be a dream come true for X fans. B Snow: "It is absolutely stunning how Kyle Anderson scores off the bounce in the lane. They are impossible shots, and absolutely cash in every time."

[skyhops]

Well said Woods! How do we know that Latham ws overwhelmed and Canty did not think he would play next year. As for potential recruits, they are only potential recruits. I think is not beyond the realm of reason to be concerned about the last two classes. DSR is not coming to X.