Depaul game thread 2/5/22

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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby XU2011 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:43 am

skyhops wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:01 pm
What was going on with Steele not putting in shooters later in the game? Up five and Scruggs turns into a freshman. He hits FT's and Free boxes out we win, but this is what happened at the end of the Butler game. Once again a bench player has another career game. This is a huge loss and once again we are on the bubble not to mention we didn't cover again. I hope Steele doesn't go into the "Pauls a warrior and heart and soul of our team" crap.
I get your point, but I think they were out there….the best 3 pt shooters on the team are Nunge, Scruggs, and Fremantle. The guys we signed to be 3 pt aces disappeared around Christmas for whatever reason and show 0 signs of coming out of it. When it goes on for almost two months it’s more than a slump……to borrow a baseball term ”you are what the back of your card says you are”….hope I’m wrong.

Disappointing.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby longliveskip » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:21 am

i don't understand all these "back on the bubble" comments. our NET is still 21 after that loss. that's not even CLOSE to the bubble.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby skyhops » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:54 am

Most are saying that because it has been a reoccurring them for the Steele era plus we have played one really good half the last five games. I don’t see us winning more than three games. I hope I am wrong.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby Anti-Homer » Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:02 pm

Paraphrasing some quotes from our eloquent coach’s post-game interview:

We gotta play smarter. We gotta work to get Xavier a great shot. Not me a great shot, not myself, the individual, Steele said. What?? WTF is he talking about? Mirrors the jumbled strategy, execution, and collective bball IQs of the team and coaches (Odom, Jones, and Nunge being the exceptions). He also said X took eight bad shots in the first half (which poster has consistently pointed this out???) and singled out guard play. Scruggs has had a disappointing year to date, and is the poster child of taking multiple bad shots, but suffers no negative consequences, like Johnson, who has had a better year does. Free is also Teflon in this regard as well.

He went on to say “We gotta figure it out, and we will.” Shew! I feel better now, though admittedly didn’t the previous 37x he has said the same things during his tenure. I’m sure to be riveted by the string of cliché’s that he will spout tomorrow during his Coach’s Show.. I love Joe Sunderman as X’s play by play guy, but he lobs softballs like Joe Nuxhall did. No one will ask the hard questions, including, seemingly, Christopher.

One thing I notice is after the 2nd straight meltdown in 19-20, X fans, though upset, no longer seem surprised, but resigned to our fate as X fans.. I still expect X to make a tourney, and possibly make a mini-run. But as I’ve said previously, if so, it will be due to the many highly ranked, talented players on the team executing like an AAU team. Talent has to trump lack of direction, accountability, and strategic management. The undisciplined way X plays is a reflection of Steele, and I am starting to fear our administration can’t/won’t fix it, especially due to a certain BOT. We have a guy in Christopher who was a steward of unsuccessful sports programs at a low mid-major in BG, including with their two most, prominent programs: bball and fball. It doesn’t mean he isn’t capable, but as someone once said, “Your record is what it is.” I don’t think I’ve won Most Influential Moderator by Moderator’s Weekly three years in a row by accident. My record is what it is. Thank you in advance for the many props btw.

I truly hope Steele has an epiphany and practices what he preaches, and goes back to see how Miller in particular and Mack coached games and managed the personnel. He did a hell of a job his first yr by getting Hankins after being left an empty cupboard, but has consistently misused transfers and has a poor track record of developing talent. Look at all the high level recruits who flamed out, and one who was freshman of the year but has been exiled for two years now, despite being the guard equivalent of Free-Bluiett. He constantly contradicts himself, especially with the famous mantra of “You play only if you bring it and participate in practice.” Then Carter, who didn’t practice the whole week, started and played over 30 minutes the next game.

We have possibly the best collection of recruits (at least on paper) coming in next year. This will be cumulative to the highly rated recruits already on the team. If Nunge stays, even Patrick Ewing could win 23 games next year in the regular season. There is still a lot of basketball to be played, and as a “glass is ¾ full” guy, I believe X will make the tourney and win at least one game. Anything less is another unsuccessful season. My quandary is the same as when Free and Hunter make threes. Would it be better for them to miss to discourage their indiscriminate, poor three point shots? I think just getting into the tourney (no hard feat when you see so many mediocre programs who make it annually, even outside of the automatic qualifiers) will get two-three more years added to his contract. Then as an X fan, I’ll die by 10,000 cuts instead of 1,000.

Go Bengals! Who Dey!!!
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby Anti-Homer » Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:07 pm

XU2011 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:43 am
skyhops wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:01 pm
What was going on with Steele not putting in shooters later in the game? Up five and Scruggs turns into a freshman. He hits FT's and Free boxes out we win, but this is what happened at the end of the Butler game. Once again a bench player has another career game. This is a huge loss and once again we are on the bubble not to mention we didn't cover again. I hope Steele doesn't go into the "Pauls a warrior and heart and soul of our team" crap.
I get your point, but I think they were out there….the best 3 pt shooters on the team are Nunge, Scruggs, and Fremantle. The guys we signed to be 3 pt aces disappeared around Christmas for whatever reason and show 0 signs of coming out of it. When it goes on for almost two months it’s more than a slump……to borrow a baseball term ”you are what the back of your card says you are”….hope I’m wrong.

Disappointing.

but I think they were out there….the best 3 pt shooters on the team are Nunge, Scruggs, and Fremantle.
Ummmmm,

What? You forgot to mention the heir apparent to Bluiett, Odom. Also, Hunter or Miles should have been in as well. Five of those six sharp shooters should have been on the court in the last twenty five seconds.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby bluegrass » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:55 am

longliveskip wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:21 am
i don't understand all these "back on the bubble" comments. our NET is still 21 after that loss. that's not even CLOSE to the bubble.
I think it's the fear that we're going down the same path of the last 2 years. Outside of Georgetown, there are no easy games left.Do you think they can go 4-4 over these next 8 games? I have to honest, I'm feeling pretty pessimistic.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby bluegrass » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:01 am

muskieman wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:43 pm
fire the guy on the clock
Is this about about the guy who manages the alternate possession arrow? We got screwed on that too.We should have gotten the jump ball with about a minute to go.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby X-lucidity » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:52 am

bluegrass wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:01 am
muskieman wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:43 pm
fire the guy on the clock
Is this about about the guy who manages the alternate possession arrow? We got screwed on that too.We should have gotten the jump ball with about a minute to go.
Bluegrass, if this is true then coaching staff MUST be called out!!! I was watching game and was happy when jump ball was called because in my mind I thought it was our turn. And that’s just me watching on my couch trying to also listen to my lovely wife as she banters about 3 other subjects at the same time. In other words, that ain’t my job. Can someone confirm this? As many of you have, I have coached. You assign a scorekeeper to keep the book in case the official scorekeeper messes up, missed air misapplied a foul or possession arrow. If this is true, what a HUGE and inexcusable blunder that could wind up costing X mightily on selection Sunday. Hoping someone who recorded game can confirm. Wow...
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby longliveskip » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:02 am

bluegrass wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:55 am
longliveskip wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:21 am
i don't understand all these "back on the bubble" comments. our NET is still 21 after that loss. that's not even CLOSE to the bubble.
I think it's the fear that we're going down the same path of the last 2 years. Outside of Georgetown, there are no easy games left.Do you think they can go 4-4 over these next 8 games? I have to honest, I'm feeling pretty pessimistic.
my prediction is they go 5-3 in their last 8 and end up 21-9. squarely IN if they do this, no matter what happens in the BE tourney.
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Re: Depaul game thread 2/5/22

Postby longliveskip » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:18 am

X-lucidity wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:52 am
bluegrass wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:01 am
muskieman wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:43 pm
fire the guy on the clock
Is this about about the guy who manages the alternate possession arrow? We got screwed on that too.We should have gotten the jump ball with about a minute to go.
Bluegrass, if this is true then coaching staff MUST be called out!!! I was watching game and was happy when jump ball was called because in my mind I thought it was our turn. And that’s just me watching on my couch trying to also listen to my lovely wife as she banters about 3 other subjects at the same time. In other words, that ain’t my job. Can someone confirm this? As many of you have, I have coached. You assign a scorekeeper to keep the book in case the official scorekeeper messes up, missed air misapplied a foul or possession arrow. If this is true, what a HUGE and inexcusable blunder that could wind up costing X mightily on selection Sunday. Hoping someone who recorded game can confirm. Wow...
pretty sure i saw several tweets saying that jump ball should have been ours, but i will say this - there are times when a referee doesn't make a call that someone can see clearly. even as a coach on the bench or announcing on the scorers table, i've had to ask "what did they call there? a foul or a jump ball?". it's still no excuse because there are at least 3-4 people on the table who need to have the CORRECT information and someone should have asked. that should never happen.

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