Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

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Re: Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

Postby Anti-Homer » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:02 pm

skyhops wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:53 pm
Time to pull the pug on some of Q's minutes he is our worst shooter and has shot the most this game. Also, we are playing a fast team and Carter looks soft. Up 8 and we sub in Zack and Carter and start shooting 3's early in the clock and shooting 20%. This is not Steeles finest effort. More KyKy less Q.
Hops,

i had our interns scrub the endless pages of posts on this thread, and yours was the unanimous winner. Steele continues to show a huuuuuge learning curve. It's amazing how someone can sound so smart during interviews, and seem like a babe in the woods during in game management. Steele continually quotes stats of X having poor shot selection on 42% and 28% repectively the last two games, yet he he let them launch 33 tonight, including Carter (0 for 6), James (0 for 3), and Marshall-Goodin. I don't care that they went 4 for 10. In fact, every UC fan should be celebrating, because it means they'll probably chuck up more this Saturday. History tells us that will probably be a bad thing. Q also had three or four shots on drives which looked like he was conducting a rebounding drill for the bigs. Lines can surely be deceiving.


Jones was unstoppable in the paint, going 4-5, and being fouled 5 other times, yet Steele would rather a team who is one of the worst in the country at chucking up treys, do so at a rate that was slightly less than James Harden's attempts. I believe they shot 10 in the first 10 minutes. Moore, Scruggs, and KyKy should be the only ones with a green light. Q and Marshall should have a stricter limit than a diabetic with sweets, unless they are Reese Cups. It would be inhumane to withhold those from anyone. But I digress.

It seems every player has the green light. Obi Harris would have had a double double every game if he played on this team. Now I see why James didn't transfer. I listened to Steele's post game interview, and he complained about intensity, particularly as it pertains to Jones. Not one word on the low IQ bball. Incidentally, Marshall and Q had 7 turnovers and 5 assists. That, sadly, was not an anomaly. I think Steele is still suffering from coach-buddyitis, and is afraid to make players accountable.

I'm still a fan of Carter, but he needs to be coming off the bench, and Moore needs to start. UC plays Scott at the 4, and he is about the same size as Marshall. With KyKy back, Q's rope needs to get shorter. I hate saying that, especially about a senior, but even Larkin was complaining about him. The fans even booed after Q missed a 3. That's a rarity at Cintas, and frankly unacceptable. As was Steele's coaching. X has played one legitimate tourney team, and has played exactly one complete game this year (against a sub 200 team). That's how you slip 7 spots in the poll after losing to a pre-season Top 6 team.

I am going to put out a Go Fund Me for a big leather chair with the letters MATTA etched in, and place it directly to the right of Steele. Even CM, after 9 years of HC experience, realized he could use an experienced coach, and brought in Dino. I still have hopes for Steele, being the glass 9/10 full poster I am, but even my homerism is being tested.

X is clearly the better team than UC, but the low IQ play which plagues the 1 and 4 spot, and inexperience of Steele could prove to be the downfall. Let's hope not, or Muskieman will have salty companionship when we have breakfast at Perkins on Sunday.
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Re: Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

Postby Anti-Homer » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:05 pm

muskieman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:44 pm
X-Expert wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:22 pm
muskieman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:09 pm
Terribly called game in the second half. A win is a Win for the boys. the beleaguered Q had 14 points and 8 rebounds. Only Naji had more points. Naji had 24 and a quiet 4 rebounds
MM glad he wound up hitting that late 3 which gave him a much more respectable line at 5-13 from field and 2-6 from 3. To quote Byron Larkin at halftime, "Quentin Goodin just simply has to quit shooting and do what he does best which is drive and dish." At the time, Goodin was 1-7 from the field so huge improvement in second half. Personally, i think Goodin is a very strong guard and should drive and look for the pass more. He has historically been a very poor 3 point shooter (based on stats) who will every now and then find the basket. My concern is the 3 assists on 4 turnovers-thats not good for a point guard as he now has a 25 assists and 20 turnovers for the year. Hopefully, he improves in all categories especially as Tandy gets more experience.

On another note, i didn't hear Bishop in the game at all but could have missed it as i was listening when i could. Did he play? Is he hurt?
I agree about the assist and thought of that through the game but then I started watching for his chances to get an assist and saw a number of ones he would have had if the player had hit the shot he gave them. BTW at least one of his assists was a 3 so he was responsible for at least 21 pts or more.
MM,

That's swell, but if poor shot selection and execution was a turnover, he would be nearing double digits. Larkin agrees.
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Re: Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

Postby muskieman » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:42 pm

Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:05 pm
muskieman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:44 pm
X-Expert wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:22 pm

MM glad he wound up hitting that late 3 which gave him a much more respectable line at 5-13 from field and 2-6 from 3. To quote Byron Larkin at halftime, "Quentin Goodin just simply has to quit shooting and do what he does best which is drive and dish." At the time, Goodin was 1-7 from the field so huge improvement in second half. Personally, i think Goodin is a very strong guard and should drive and look for the pass more. He has historically been a very poor 3 point shooter (based on stats) who will every now and then find the basket. My concern is the 3 assists on 4 turnovers-thats not good for a point guard as he now has a 25 assists and 20 turnovers for the year. Hopefully, he improves in all categories especially as Tandy gets more experience.

On another note, i didn't hear Bishop in the game at all but could have missed it as i was listening when i could. Did he play? Is he hurt?
I agree about the assist and thought of that through the game but then I started watching for his chances to get an assist and saw a number of ones he would have had if the player had hit the shot he gave them. BTW at least one of his assists was a 3 so he was responsible for at least 21 pts or more.
MM,

That's swell, but if poor shot selection and execution was a turnover, he would be nearing double digits. Larkin agrees.
interesting that you only pick out BLarks negative and missed the good things has said about him. Must not be in your narrative. BTW I heard you had a turkey brought in because you and your mom were busy reading over the holidays.
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Re: Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

Postby Anti-Homer » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:26 pm

muskieman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:42 pm
Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:05 pm
muskieman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:44 pm

I agree about the assist and thought of that through the game but then I started watching for his chances to get an assist and saw a number of ones he would have had if the player had hit the shot he gave them. BTW at least one of his assists was a 3 so he was responsible for at least 21 pts or more.
MM,

That's swell, but if poor shot selection and execution were turnovers, he would be nearing double digits. Larkin agrees.
interesting that you only pick out BLarks negative and missed the good things has said about him. Must not be in your narrative. BTW I heard you had a turkey brought in because you and your mom were busy reading over the holidays.
Even when we disagree,

I cannot deny your tremendous wit and cutting edge humor. Unfortunately, my comment aligns with Byron's, as he has done something he rarely does, and that's criticize an X player, Q, on multiple occasions throughout the season. Despite the unwavering respect I have for you, I will not sit idly by and see you heap unwarranted criticism towards an X Hall of Famer, and basketball treasure. Now I'm logging off before I lose my temper. Good night sir.
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Re: Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

Postby skyhops » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:58 am

Steele has basically said the same things that concern AH, Expert, myself and many others on this board yet the same poor decisions, three point shots, and defensive lapse continue. Hopefully he can right the ship because we will not beat even above average teams. Hopefully Steele got my fax telling him that allowing Carter and Donnie James (Skyhops Jr fav) to go 0-9 from three is not a good idea especially against a zone. Zip em up
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Re: Green Bay vs Xavier thread 12/4/19

Postby muskieman » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:59 pm

Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:26 pm
muskieman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:42 pm
Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:05 pm


MM,

That's swell, but if poor shot selection and execution were turnovers, he would be nearing double digits. Larkin agrees.
interesting that you only pick out BLarks negative and missed the good things has said about him. Must not be in your narrative. BTW I heard you had a turkey brought in because you and your mom were busy reading over the holidays.
Even when we disagree,

I cannot deny your tremendous wit and cutting edge humor. Unfortunately, my comment aligns with Byron's, as he has done something he rarely does, and that's criticize an X player, Q, on multiple occasions throughout the season. Despite the unwavering respect I have for you, I will not sit idly by and see you heap unwarranted criticism towards an X Hall of Famer, and basketball treasure. Now I'm logging off before I lose my temper. Good night sir.
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