Still too early... but sky seems to be falling

[Anti-Homer]

I completely disagree with Skip regarding Free shooting a wide open 3. Watch him shoot from 3, he is straining to shoot it. Not quite as bad as Odom but Odom doesn't shoot them because he understands it is not a good decision. If Free wants to take those shots, then he needs to fix his mechanics or whatever is causing him to look as though he doesn't have the strength to get it to the rim. Put in the work then expand range in games.

A guarded Johnson 3 (while not in a shooting slump) is better than a wide open 3 from Freemantle. I don't like either but being open is not a good enough reason to shoot. If it were, players should shoot from half court all game.

Great point re: not taking a shot you rarely make simply because one is open. Newsflash: Perhaps there is a reason the shot is open. When Goodin, and now Odom, Free, Nunge, and Hunter (who while shooting in the 40s in league play, is still only shooting 27% for the year) are behind the three point line, the opposition gives them enough time to tie their shoes and still have an open three. At least Odom is an unicorn and is smart enough to not take the bait. Other awful three point shooters in Steele's era like Goodin & Marshall shot a voluminous number with no remorse, or accountability. Is there a correlation between that and being shut out from the Dance in three years? It ends here year four, undisciplined shot selection not withstanding. I believe!!

[muskieman]

I completely disagree with Skip regarding Free shooting a wide open 3. Watch him shoot from 3, he is straining to shoot it. Not quite as bad as Odom but Odom doesn't shoot them because he understands it is not a good decision. If Free wants to take those shots, then he needs to fix his mechanics or whatever is causing him to look as though he doesn't have the strength to get it to the rim. Put in the work then expand range in games.

A guarded Johnson 3 (while not in a shooting slump) is better than a wide open 3 from Freemantle. I don't like either but being open is not a good enough reason to shoot. If it were, players should shoot from half court all game.

Great point re: not taking a shot you rarely make simply because one is open. Newsflash: Perhaps there is a reason the shot is open. When Goodin, and now Odom, Free, Nunge, and Hunter (who while shooting in the 40s in league play, is still only shooting 27% for the year) are behind the three point line, the opposition gives them enough time to tie their shoes and still have an open three. At least Odom is an unicorn and is smart enough to not take the bait. Other awful three point shooters in Steele's era like Goodin & Marshall shot a voluminous number with no remorse, or accountability. Is there a correlation between that and being shut out from the Dance in three years? It ends here year four, undisciplined shot selection not withstanding. I believe!!

so based on your reason Hunter who was in a slump in the out of conference but started shooting 40% in conference should never shoot that 40% because he should stop shooting when you think he was not a three-point shooter. He did shoot .324 at Indiana. If you do believe that then by your logic when a better shooter goes into a slump he should stop shooting like 4-13 in the last four games? Just what you to clarify your logic

[Anti-Homer]

I completely disagree with Skip regarding Free shooting a wide open 3. Watch him shoot from 3, he is straining to shoot it. Not quite as bad as Odom but Odom doesn't shoot them because he understands it is not a good decision. If Free wants to take those shots, then he needs to fix his mechanics or whatever is causing him to look as though he doesn't have the strength to get it to the rim. Put in the work then expand range in games.

A guarded Johnson 3 (while not in a shooting slump) is better than a wide open 3 from Freemantle. I don't like either but being open is not a good enough reason to shoot. If it were, players should shoot from half court all game.

Great point re: not taking a shot you rarely make simply because one is open. Newsflash: Perhaps there is a reason the shot is open. When Goodin, and now Odom, Free, Nunge, and Hunter (who while shooting in the 40s in league play, is still only shooting 27% for the year) are behind the three point line, the opposition gives them enough time to tie their shoes and still have an open three. At least Odom is an unicorn and is smart enough to not take the bait. Other awful three point shooters in Steele's era like Goodin & Marshall shot a voluminous number with no remorse, or accountability. Is there a correlation between that and being shut out from the Dance in three years? It ends here year four, undisciplined shot selection not withstanding. I believe!!

so based on your reason Hunter who was in a slump in the out of conference but started shooting 40% in conference should never shoot that 40% because he should stop shooting when you think he was not a three-point shooter. He did shoot .324 at Indiana. If you do believe that then by your logic when a better shooter goes into a slump he should stop shooting like 4-13 in the last four games? Just what you to clarify your logic

Ok,

I'll clarify, b/c part of my post was a little ambiguous. I don't want Hunter to stop shooting threes, and two open in rhythm treys a game feels right. However, long JP like threes ain't his forte. Again, it is as much the selection as much as the number. Nunge was a poor three point shooter at Iowa, and it continues here. However, he is very solid when he is wide open at the top of the key. Same applies to Free. Again, if guys would shoot shots they have proven the ability to make, instead of everyone but Odom channeling Bluiett behind the three point line (only Johnson, Kunkel, and Tandy should have a green light, as opposed to everyone including the managers), this team's three point and overall shooting would be better.

Don't ever change Pony Boy.

[muskieman]

Great point re: not taking a shot you rarely make simply because one is open. Newsflash: Perhaps there is a reason the shot is open. When Goodin, and now Odom, Free, Nunge, and Hunter (who while shooting in the 40s in league play, is still only shooting 27% for the year) are behind the three point line, the opposition gives them enough time to tie their shoes and still have an open three. At least Odom is an unicorn and is smart enough to not take the bait. Other awful three point shooters in Steele's era like Goodin & Marshall shot a voluminous number with no remorse, or accountability. Is there a correlation between that and being shut out from the Dance in three years? It ends here year four, undisciplined shot selection not withstanding. I believe!!

so based on your reason Hunter who was in a slump in the out of conference but started shooting 40% in conference should never shoot that 40% because he should stop shooting when you think he was not a three-point shooter. He did shoot .324 at Indiana. If you do believe that then by your logic when a better shooter goes into a slump he should stop shooting like 4-13 in the last four games? Just what you to clarify your logic

Ok,

I'll clarify, b/c part of my post was a little ambiguous. I don't want Hunter to stop shooting threes, and two open in rhythm treys a game feels right. However, long JP like threes ain't his forte. Again, it is as much the selection as much as the number. Nunge was a poor three point shooter at Iowa, and it continues here. However, he is very solid when he is wide open at the top of the key. Same applies to Free. Again, if guys would shoot shots they have proven the ability to make, instead of everyone but Odom channeling Bluiett behind the three point line (only Johnson, Kunkel, and Tandy should have a green light, as opposed to everyone including the managers), this team's three point and overall shooting would be better.

Don't ever change Pony Boy.

I am not sure you really looked at Jack's Iowa numbers because he shot 33.9% his first year, played only 5 games his second year and his third year coming off an injury he shot 29.8%.

[Anti-Homer]

so based on your reason Hunter who was in a slump in the out of conference but started shooting 40% in conference should never shoot that 40% because he should stop shooting when you think he was not a three-point shooter. He did shoot .324 at Indiana. If you do believe that then by your logic when a better shooter goes into a slump he should stop shooting like 4-13 in the last four games? Just what you to clarify your logic

Ok,

I'll clarify, b/c part of my post was a little ambiguous. I don't want Hunter to stop shooting threes, and two open in rhythm treys a game feels right. However, long JP like threes ain't his forte. Again, it is as much the selection as much as the number. Nunge was a poor three point shooter at Iowa, and it continues here. However, he is very solid when he is wide open at the top of the key. Same applies to Free. Again, if guys would shoot shots they have proven the ability to make, instead of everyone but Odom channeling Bluiett behind the three point line (only Johnson, Kunkel, and Tandy should have a green light, as opposed to everyone including the managers), this team's three point and overall shooting would be better.

Don't ever change Pony Boy.

I am not sure you really looked at Jack's Iowa numbers because he shot 33.9% his first year, played only 5 games his second year and his third year coming off an injury he shot 29.8%.

JN at Iowa:3 pt %: 36/118 30%. Thus far at X 11/42 26%. Cumulative: 29%. Are any of those data sets good Mman? Don't worry, he won't be discouraged to take less, since Steele believes in your philosophy. Any "open" shot, by anyone, any place, any time, is a "good shot."

[Xavier2005]

ok Jan 26th...too many losses recently, the sky is breaking open and starting to fall. Cannot score in the 60s and or below and win in the BE or in MM. Lately playing in streaks and 50-50 good and bad...then losing.

[pdxmuskie]

Nunge is a good 3 point shooter when open and set. He should take those when they come to him. Hunter is also a capable shooter when in the flow and not contested or from deep. Free doesn't have the mechanics or range to shoot from 3. Scruggs is an ok 3 point shooter but his shots should be limited. The team and his career would benefit from him focusing on the mid range and finding opportunities at the rim.

Johnson was an amazing shooter until he started forcing the issue. He started take an extra 3 or 2 each game that he hadn't earlier in the season. That makes sense given how well he was shooting and how poorly the rest of the team was shooting. Those shots however simply ended up hurting his percentage and the team. Now he is in a shooting slump and still taking those contested 3s exacerbating the issue. Johnson needs to be patient and wait for good looks. If he does, his slump will end.

Kunkel is hard to analyze because he seems to just be streaky. When he is on, he hits shots he shouldn't take and when he is off, he misses wide open shots.

[Anti-Homer]

Nunge is a good 3 point shooter when open and set. He should take those when they come to him. Hunter is also a capable shooter when in the flow and not contested or from deep. Free doesn't have the mechanics or range to shoot from 3. Scruggs is an ok 3 point shooter but his shots should be limited. The team and his career would benefit from him focusing on the mid range and finding opportunities at the rim.

Johnson was an amazing shooter until he started forcing the issue. He started take an extra 3 or 2 each game that he hadn't earlier in the season. That makes sense given how well he was shooting and how poorly the rest of the team was shooting. Those shots however simply ended up hurting his percentage and the team. Now he is in a shooting slump and still taking those contested 3s exacerbating the issue. Johnson needs to be patient and wait for good looks. If he does, his slump will end.

Kunkel is hard to analyze because he seems to just be streaky. When he is on, he hits shots he shouldn't take and when he is off, he misses wide open shots.

Yup, yup, and yup.

[longliveskip]

Nunge is a good 3 point shooter when open and set. He should take those when they come to him. Hunter is also a capable shooter when in the flow and not contested or from deep. Free doesn't have the mechanics or range to shoot from 3. Scruggs is an ok 3 point shooter but his shots should be limited. The team and his career would benefit from him focusing on the mid range and finding opportunities at the rim.

Johnson was an amazing shooter until he started forcing the issue. He started take an extra 3 or 2 each game that he hadn't earlier in the season. That makes sense given how well he was shooting and how poorly the rest of the team was shooting. Those shots however simply ended up hurting his percentage and the team. Now he is in a shooting slump and still taking those contested 3s exacerbating the issue. Johnson needs to be patient and wait for good looks. If he does, his slump will end.

Kunkel is hard to analyze because he seems to just be streaky. When he is on, he hits shots he shouldn't take and when he is off, he misses wide open shots.

mostly good takes here. agree on Nunge. Hunter has also been WAY better during league play with selection and accuracy. can't remember a game where he took more than 3 and he's taken open, good ones, in flow, from a pass. Scruggs is much better penetrating. i just wish he would look to kick it out a LITTLE more than he's been doing. feel like he's missed a few open shooters when he's had the ball in the lane the last few games.

i disagree on Nate. he has NOT forced the issue. he still has taken (minus maybe ONE that i can remember) GREAT shots. they simply haven't gone in. gotta be a mental/confidence issue at this point for him.

i think he and Kunkel will be fine and those are the two guys who SHOULD shoot the 3 when in flow and open. they just need to MAKE more.