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Searching for Cinderella

Postby jswartz » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:15 pm

Hey guys…just wanted to give everyone the link to this webpage I found with Cinderella team rankings. We’re in 1st right now...no surprise there. I guess they are updating it every week from now until Selection Sunday.
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/cinderella/
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby X Factor » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:28 pm

I want to know how you can consider the #10 team in the country who will likely be a 2 or 3 seed in the NCAA tournament a cinderella?

That is pretty stupid.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby Mr. Neutral » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:31 pm

<<The best team in the best non-major league. >>

Well, they did describe X in pretty accurate terms above.

BYU, So. Alabama and Nevada are also Cinderellas, so it's not exactly bad company. If we ever get to the point where we have 1 Sweet 16 and 1 Elite Eight in school history, we'll be thought of as more of a "major" player.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby picknroll » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:23 pm

Mr. Neutral wrote:<<The best team in the best non-major league. >>

Well, they did describe X in pretty accurate terms above.

BYU, So. Alabama and Nevada are also Cinderellas, so it's not exactly bad company. If we ever get to the point where we have 1 Sweet 16 and 1 Elite Eight in school history, we'll be thought of as more of a "major" player.
I think we have a 16 and 8 already, don't we?
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby xcellent » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:46 pm

I think he meant more then 1 sweet 16 and 1 elite eight.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby WCWIII » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:57 pm

We've done well with ...

Eggs-Zavier
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Mid-major

If we make a Final Four, we'll have less and less to worry about.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby joetitan » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:03 pm

"pick" & "xcell" : Mr.N surely knows well XU has seen the Sweet 16 & Elite 8 andd he did NOT inadvertently omit "more" from his sentence.

He does mean XU is now already a major program and should not be classified in any way a "cinderella" team.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby Mr. Neutral » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:59 pm

Au contraire, I did inadvertently leave out "more than". As of this point in time, we're a very good program that really hasn't made the noise in the NCAA that you might think we would have, given all the 20+ win seasons and NBA players we've produced.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby joetitan » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:19 am

sorry Mr N; I mistook your renowned "neutrality" for subtle sarcasm; still I cannot accept you place XU in a "cinderella" category (which seems a step below the dreaded mid-major label).

Turning to your points of 20+ wins and NBA products, IMO those points counter the "cinderella" story. I understand several years where XU under-achieved or at least found ways to squander prime opportunities, but those years would not lead to XU being cinderella this year.
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Re: Searching for Cinderella

Postby Mr. Neutral » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:20 am

If you define an NCAA "Cinderalla" as a team unlikely to, based on past performance, make the Final Four, or even the Elite Eight, then we do fit that category, as we've never made a FF and only one EE. So, our making either of those would be a high-water mark in school history, and certainly not something you could predict based on our past tournament performances, which have always been a 1st or 2nd round loss except for two occasions.
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