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Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:56 pm
by muskieman
In the past ACLs took longer than 12 months of recovery and rehab, is that still the case???

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:02 pm
by skyhops
Good question.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
by yellow20xd
Joe Burrows expects to be back 9 months after his knee surgery so it appears they've shaved a little time off of the recovery time... Dan

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proced ... r%20sports.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:02 pm
by muskieman
yellow20xd wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
Joe Burrows expects to be back 9 months after his knee surgery so it appears they've shaved a little time off of the recovery time... Dan

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proced ... r%20sports.
I hope Burrow and Ben have similar medical success and the corresponding weight coaches help the process

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:31 pm
by Jesseandrippers
muskieman wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:02 pm
yellow20xd wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
Joe Burrows expects to be back 9 months after his knee surgery so it appears they've shaved a little time off of the recovery time... Dan

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proced ... r%20sports.
I hope Burrow and Ben have similar medical success and the corresponding weight coaches help the process
They have not innovated the surgery itself but the PT and recovery process has changed a fair amount the past 10 years. 9-12 months is the new standard for a high performing athlete with a “normal” tear with moderate meniscus or articular ligament damage. The nature of the rupture, the quality of the tissue used, clotting and many other factors play into recovery time.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:42 am
by edgecliff hall
Jesseandrippers, thanks for your educated comments on this very important subject. I deeply respect all these young men and women who put their bodies on the line playing hard team sports. Knees take a beating. And speaking of knees and ankles, I want to thank Mr. Carter for your years on Xavier's team. It was clear how you went all-out for Xavier. I wish you every success for your return to Ohio, and in life beyond basketball. You will always be a Musketeer.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:24 am
by finalfourorbust
yellow20xd wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
Joe Burrows expects to be back 9 months after his knee surgery so it appears they've shaved a little time off of the recovery time... Dan

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proced ... r%20sports.
I would think that it would be much more difficult for a basketball player to do it than a QB.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 pm
by muskieman
Jesseandrippers wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:31 pm
muskieman wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:02 pm
yellow20xd wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
Joe Burrows expects to be back 9 months after his knee surgery so it appears they've shaved a little time off of the recovery time... Dan

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proced ... r%20sports.
I hope Burrow and Ben have similar medical success and the corresponding weight coaches help the process
They have not innovated the surgery itself but the PT and recovery process has changed a fair amount the past 10 years. 9-12 months is the new standard for a high performing athlete with a “normal” tear with moderate meniscus or articular ligament damage. The nature of the rupture, the quality of the tissue used, clotting and many other factors play into recovery time.
I remember they use to open up the knee (john Shinners and a few friends I played ball with) and now they use arthroscopic surgery which has to be more innovative. I am sure PT has also been improved and now they start you working on your recovery quicker. My guess is it all has to do with how much pain you can stand and how quick a healer a person normally is but I am sure the nature and extent of the rupture all come into play. Sounds like you know something about this and you tell by just watching how Ben tore up the knee how bad it could be. It seems that at the time it was a knocked knee and nothing articulated to an extreme but what do I know which is why I am asking.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:39 pm
by thecoach
Much has to do with the individual. Some folks are injury prone and hopefully this is not his case. My guess is he starts slow and works his way up to minutes. One of the bigger issues is not favoring things so as to create other injuries. Everyone is different recovery wise.

Re: Question for our medical people on the board.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:53 am
by Jesseandrippers
muskieman wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 pm
Jesseandrippers wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:31 pm
muskieman wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:02 pm


I hope Burrow and Ben have similar medical success and the corresponding weight coaches help the process
They have not innovated the surgery itself but the PT and recovery process has changed a fair amount the past 10 years. 9-12 months is the new standard for a high performing athlete with a “normal” tear with moderate meniscus or articular ligament damage. The nature of the rupture, the quality of the tissue used, clotting and many other factors play into recovery time.
I remember they use to open up the knee (john Shinners and a few friends I played ball with) and now they use arthroscopic surgery which has to be more innovative. I am sure PT has also been improved and now they start you working on your recovery quicker. My guess is it all has to do with how much pain you can stand and how quick a healer a person normally is but I am sure the nature and extent of the rupture all come into play. Sounds like you know something about this and you tell by just watching how Ben tore up the knee how bad it could be. It seems that at the time it was a knocked knee and nothing articulated to an extreme but what do I know which is why I am asking.
They have been using arthroscopy since the mid 80’s for ACL surgery. Even this just enables the PT process to start much sooner and at a critical time when the new rubberband needs to grow but remain tight in the space.