Transfers

[thecoach]

you are exactly correct. he will not play at any a10 school. look for him to land at a major bcs school.

[muskieman]

A lot of people keep saying it's a good bet that DSR still winds up in a Xavier uniform. I live in Indy and know a few people who are pretty well connected in the high school basketball scene here, and I haven't heard one of them say that DSR is still coming to X. Does anyone have any actual facts to back this up or is it just hope at this point, because no one here is mentioning the two in the same breath anymore.

Tell us who they (your few people) are so we may know how deep is their knowledge. When ever a player is out there some school could come in and sweep him off his feet but if X didn't have a chance do you think coaches would spend time and money going after him?

[XUFan09]

A lot of people keep saying it's a good bet that DSR still winds up in a Xavier uniform. I live in Indy and know a few people who are pretty well connected in the high school basketball scene here, and I haven't heard one of them say that DSR is still coming to X. Does anyone have any actual facts to back this up or is it just hope at this point, because no one here is mentioning the two in the same breath anymore.

Might just be hope now. Could be people with inside connections or people abusing the services of their Rivals membership by spreading info. On his Rivals page, Xavier is still the only school listed with a high interest. I thought Rivals was pretty up-to-date, particularly as compared to ESPN, but they don't have Texas and Baylor listed at all, though he has visits there, so who knows.

[indyxufan]

A lot of people keep saying it's a good bet that DSR still winds up in a Xavier uniform. I live in Indy and know a few people who are pretty well connected in the high school basketball scene here, and I haven't heard one of them say that DSR is still coming to X. Does anyone have any actual facts to back this up or is it just hope at this point, because no one here is mentioning the two in the same breath anymore.

Tell us who they (your few people) are so we may know how deep is their knowledge. When ever a player is out there some school could come in and sweep him off his feet but if X didn't have a chance do you think coaches would spend time and money going after him?

One is a local AAU coach out of a very respected program (and no, I'm not going to name any names on here because they probably don't want their names mentioned), and two are Varsity head coaches at traditionally good programs in Indy. I hope DSR comes to X, but do you, the well connected, behind the scenes, practice attending information giant that you are (and please tell us your source so we can know how deep their knowledge is), or anyone else, have any actual facts that would support your claims that he is still coming to X. And yes, there are countless coaches who hound players even though they have no chance of getting that player into their program. I just asked if anyone had any solid information to back up he was still coming to X. I'm not saying he isn't, and I hope he does, but there sure isn't any buzz around Indy that he is. And please, no one post any information on this board unless you reveal your source and we can determine their level of knowledge.

[muskieman]

A lot of people keep saying it's a good bet that DSR still winds up in a Xavier uniform. I live in Indy and know a few people who are pretty well connected in the high school basketball scene here, and I haven't heard one of them say that DSR is still coming to X. Does anyone have any actual facts to back this up or is it just hope at this point, because no one here is mentioning the two in the same breath anymore.

Tell us who they (your few people) are so we may know how deep is their knowledge. When ever a player is out there some school could come in and sweep him off his feet but if X didn't have a chance do you think coaches would spend time and money going after him?

One is a local AAU coach out of a very respected program (and no, I'm not going to name any names on here because they probably don't want their names mentioned), and two are Varsity head coaches at traditionally good programs in Indy. I hope DSR comes to X, but do you, the well connected, behind the scenes, practice attending information giant that you are (and please tell us your source so we can know how deep their knowledge is), or anyone else, have any actual facts that would support your claims that he is still coming to X. And yes, there are countless coaches who hound players even though they have no chance of getting that player into their program. I just asked if anyone had any solid information to back up he was still coming to X. I'm not saying he isn't, and I hope he does, but there sure isn't any buzz around Indy that he is. And please, no one post any information on this board unless you reveal your source and we can determine their level of knowledge.

don't get excited. I wanted to gauge your sources with mine. AAU coach unless he is DSR's AAU coach might not be that good and varsity coaches like the AAU coach is probably getting similar scuttlebuck. My sources are, this time, close to the team but not the coaches(they can not talk) and some of the sports guys that watch all these AAU games and use to watch most of X's games and practices for the record they have always worked about 90-95% of the time. I am sure both of us hope I am right this time but even with that there is always, like I said, that school that offers something X can not offer or would not offer.
Indyfan keep us informed of what they are saying in Indy even if we don't like it. Remember when you have your ear to the ground it might be someone elses horses that are approaching not yours

[muskieman]

just a few of the decommitted players

Austin Rivers, who decommitted from Florida for Duke
Ryan Boatright decommitted from USC and West Virginia
Chane Behanan decommitted from uc to Louisville
Maurice Harkless UConn to St John's
DeAndre Danials from Texas to Undecided
Josiah Turner from Arizona State to Arizona
Cedrick McAfee from FIU to Auburn
Jahii Carson from Oregon State to Arizona State
Naadir Tharpe from Providence to Kansas
Shaquille Thomas from Syracuse to Cincinnati
Trey Burke from Penn State to Michigan
Anthony Norris from Memphis Undecided
Jernard Jarreau from VCU to Washington
Vinny Zollo Kentucky Western Kentucky


Last year Josh Selby decommitted from Tenn.

Can you now provide the lengthy list of multiple decommits from one school?

I know that UD announces bball signees Percy Gibson/LaDontae Henton have been granted release from their National LOI's signed during early period.

[XUFan09]

I think the facts surrounding the transfers have been revealed enough over the past few days to nullify concerns. Before we were speculating, but now we have a solid grasp of the reasons. Both guys transferred because of playing time, and in Latham's case, issues with adjusting to the college speed, a desire to be closer to Baltimore, and issues with schoolwork also factored in.

These things happen at Xavier, in college basketball, in college sports in general. Hell, issues with homesickness and schoolwork cut across all college students. I can name a decent number of guys who transferred out from my freshman wing alone, and only one was an athlete (Johnny Wolf, lol). Based on what we know now, I hardly see how the fault lies with the coaching staff. Yeah, there were two transfers this time, but that can happen just by coincidence.

There's been a lot of talk over this year concerning how deep next year's team will be (the 07-08 is probably the best comparison). Wouldn't a by-product of that be some decent players not getting playing time? I mean, there are only 200 minutes to go around, and there are 13 scholarship players. The five starters at least are going to probably play 27-33 minutes a piece, so someone is definitely gonna lose in this scenario. Usually they are freshmen and maybe sophomores who know they'll get playing time at least as juniors, after their competitors graduate. In this case though, Canty's (better) competitors are actually a year below him, so they'll be there for the remainder of his career. And Latham's current competitors (Taylor who was apparently doing well in practice and Robinson who actually logged decent minutes this year) are both only a year older than him, not to mention that his classmate McKenzie was picking up the system better than him too. So would he maybe see some starter-level minutes as a senior (like Johnny Wolf)? This seemed like a no-brainer for both of them if they were concerned with playing time. It really seemed to be a coincidence that both happened in the same year. Latham looked like a transfer no matter what, but I have doubts that Canty would have made this decision if Wells didn't commit.

[Mr. Neutral]

Two things happen every offseason--(1) tons of players transfer; and (2) at least 60 coaches change jobs. Anyone shocked by either event has been paying absolutely no attention to the college game for the last 20 years.

[muskieman]

Two things happen every offseason--(1) tons of players transfer; and (2) at least 60 coaches change jobs. Anyone shocked by either event has been paying absolutely no attention to the college game for the last 20 years.

you might add that a school that has not had a transfer might be a school were they have little or no talent. Schools laden with talent or schools that have coaching changes are more prone to have transfers.

[XUFan09]

Some past X teams (and a lot of midmajor teams) are good examples of experience over talent, since they don't often have a great amount in the way of talent but a lot in the way of development and upperclassmen leadership. Juniors and seniors get most of the playing time, and the underclassmen know their time will come. With more talented teams though, that time might never come for some players. Freshmen could come in ready to contribute immediately and possibly be a star by as early as their sophomore year. Just look at the UNC point guard who lost his starting spot to a freshman (though I think the mid-season transfer was rather foolish). The straightforward progression of a midmajor just doesn't always happen with more talented teams. How would you like to be a top 150 recruit but be faced with the prospect of never getting decent playing time, even as an upperclassmen? If basketball was my main concern, I'd transfer too in that situation.