Villanova Game thread 02/11/2017

[longliveskip]

I'm sure it is equally difficult to keep MMan off the Stratego court. I guess losing transfers is a bigger deal than most thought. No excuse to lose both Makinde and LAJ.

do you really believe having either of those guys this year makes this team ANY better than the 18-7 we are right now? if you do, then i want whatever you're smoking.

"no excuse"? these guys CHOSE to leave. it was THEIR choice.

[skyhops]

Plenty of opportunities to give Makinde more time last year which was one of main reasons for leaving. I do believe LAJ would have improved our situation. In college basketball there are always multiple reasons for players leaving unless you know something more than I do

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Plenty of opportunities to give Makinde more time last year which was one of main reasons for leaving. I do believe LAJ would have improved our situation. In college basketball there are always multiple reasons for players leaving unless you know something more than I do

you don't just "give" guys playing time. they have to EARN it. in practice and then performing in games. he didn't do that last year and he was playing behind Farr and Reynolds, one of the best 4/5 combos we've had in a long time! he knew full well both of those guys would be gone and with an off-season of lifting, working on his game, etc, would've been given a huge chance to step into a larger role this season. if he wasn't that homesick, he would've waited for that chance. had NOTHING to do with not playing more minutes as a frosh at all.

i agree that with our lack of guard depth now because of injuries, LAJ would help but how can you account for guys getting hurt?

they both did what they thought was best for them. LAJ would've clearly been the #3 PG on the depth chart. he saw that and looked elsewhere for more PT. it happens.

[skyhops]

Actually Mack said many times last year that Makinde worked as hard as anyone and deserved more time. We blew out many opponents last year and Mack should have given him more time and he would have if he knew he was leaving. Of course Myles breaking 5 phones doesn't help our depth either.

[muskieman]

Actually Mack said many times last year that Makinde worked as hard as anyone and deserved more time. We blew out many opponents last year and Mack should have given him more time and he would have if he knew he was leaving. Of course Myles breaking 5 phones doesn't help our depth either.

I loved having ML on the team but you could see his heart was not in big time basketball and with 10 more minutes average per game more than he averaged at X his point total is only slightly 5 points higher at 6.7 per game( better than Sean's numbers) and rebounds on average of 3.7 versus 1.3 (also higher than Sean's number). It appears his season is lackluster and he has only started 7 games of the 24 of the games he has played in out of the Mocs 25 games played. His minutes at Chattanooga appears inconsistent with average minutes only 15 and change. I use to watch his prep school games and it appeared he was happiest when he was backing up someone else.

[Anti-Homer]

Plenty of opportunities to give Makinde more time last year which was one of main reasons for leaving. I do believe LAJ would have improved our situation. In college basketball there are always multiple reasons for players leaving unless you know something more than I do

you don't just "give" guys playing time. they have to EARN it. in practice and then performing in games. he didn't do that last year and he was playing behind Farr and Reynolds, one of the best 4/5 combos we've had in a long time! he knew full well both of those guys would be gone and with an off-season of lifting, working on his game, etc, would've been given a huge chance to step into a larger role this season. if he wasn't that homesick, he would've waited for that chance. had NOTHING to do with not playing more minutes as a frosh at all.

i agree that with our lack of guard depth now because of injuries, LAJ would help but how can you account for guys getting hurt?

they both did what they thought was best for them. LAJ would've clearly been the #3 PG on the depth chart. he saw that and looked elsewhere for more PT. it happens.

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e knew full well both of those guys would be gone and with an off-season of lifting, working on his game, etc, would've been given a huge chance to step into a larger role this season. if he wasn't that homesick, he would've waited for that chance. had NOTHING to do with not playing more minutes as a frosh at all.

Exactly how do you know this to be true??? He played very well early last year when he and O'Mara got minutes, hitting 3s, playing good D, and collecting assists. When Farr and Reynolds got into foul trouble against USC, both played extended minutes, and London showed tremendous ability. Mack and Co have done a great job luring high caliber recruits, and a poor job keeping them. We lost 4 eligible players this year from last: Reynolds, LAJ, Eyikor, and London. WThey blew it with London, plain and simple. Now, one of our key recruits for next year, the post player from Fla, is transferring to revive his grades which are on life support. Mman has the paddles ready to shock them back into eligibility.

you don't just "give" guys playing time. they have to EARN it

Pray tell, How did Myles Davis earn meaningful minutes his 1st game back, after only 1 1/2 practices when he returned? I kind of think guys like O'Mara cried B.S. on that one. He was asked to leave because he got into an altercation with yet another young lady. He blew his second chance, and hopefully, didn't cause any resentment with the players.

[skyhops]

Once again Anti Homer right on target. Mack could write a book on how to make a player transfer.

[Anti-Homer]

As X ascended to a high caliber conference, there was no question more transfers would occur. Transfer happen in every program. Nova lost a good guard in Ennis to Oregon, but it obviously didn't affect them, as they won an NC, and are an odds-on favorite to win it again. However, we lost 3-4 players a few years ago in one year, while still in the A-10, and 4 again last year.

Our transfer rate has to be in the top 10% during his tenure. it's one thing if it was because superior players prompted them to leave, but the win's loss record doesn't support that (relative to his predecessors). CM should get credit for getting the best class to come to X on paper next year. it's a moot point though, if it doesn't translate to results on AND off the court.

[Anti-Homer]

Just finished watching the d'vred game from last night. Kudos to another great effort by RG. Back to back 20 point games. Granted neither Nova or Prov had legitimate post players guarding him, but he still was a lone bright spot for X. He also had a very good game against an NBA center in Patton. Happy the transfer is paying off for him, and more and more each game for X.

[longliveskip]

Plenty of opportunities to give Makinde more time last year which was one of main reasons for leaving. I do believe LAJ would have improved our situation. In college basketball there are always multiple reasons for players leaving unless you know something more than I do

you don't just "give" guys playing time. they have to EARN it. in practice and then performing in games. he didn't do that last year and he was playing behind Farr and Reynolds, one of the best 4/5 combos we've had in a long time! he knew full well both of those guys would be gone and with an off-season of lifting, working on his game, etc, would've been given a huge chance to step into a larger role this season. if he wasn't that homesick, he would've waited for that chance. had NOTHING to do with not playing more minutes as a frosh at all.

i agree that with our lack of guard depth now because of injuries, LAJ would help but how can you account for guys getting hurt?

they both did what they thought was best for them. LAJ would've clearly been the #3 PG on the depth chart. he saw that and looked elsewhere for more PT. it happens.

h

e knew full well both of those guys would be gone and with an off-season of lifting, working on his game, etc, would've been given a huge chance to step into a larger role this season. if he wasn't that homesick, he would've waited for that chance. had NOTHING to do with not playing more minutes as a frosh at all.

Exactly how do you know this to be true??? He played very well early last year when he and O'Mara got minutes, hitting 3s, playing good D, and collecting assists. When Farr and Reynolds got into foul trouble against USC, both played extended minutes, and London showed tremendous ability. Mack and Co have done a great job luring high caliber recruits, and a poor job keeping them. We lost 4 eligible players this year from last: Reynolds, LAJ, Eyikor, and London. WThey blew it with London, plain and simple. Now, one of our key recruits for next year, the post player from Fla, is transferring to revive his grades which are on life support. Mman has the paddles ready to shock them back into eligibility.

you don't just "give" guys playing time. they have to EARN it

Pray tell, How did Myles Davis earn meaningful minutes his 1st game back, after only 1 1/2 practices when he returned? I kind of think guys like O'Mara cried B.S. on that one. He was asked to leave because he got into an altercation with yet another young lady. He blew his second chance, and hopefully, didn't cause any resentment with the players.

how can you possibly even compare Myles Davis getting about 7-10 minutes a game after coming off suspension to ML earning PT as a frosh? it's not even CLOSE to the same thing. Myles gave 3 years to the program. Mack knew what kind of player he was. London was still a work in progress and ML also knew that the 2 guys playing the majority of minutes that he wanted were about to be gone, so he had 3 solid years of playing significant minutes at the 4/5 spot and didn't stay. that tells me it had ZERO to do with how many minutes he got as a frosh.

Reynolds left early for $$$ so you can't count him as a "transfer" but nice try there. LAJ didn't want to compete behind Sumner and Goodin. that's his prerogative. Not Mack's.

also, the fact that Skyhops totally agrees with you just proves my point even more.