You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

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Steele should be fired or not ?

Fired immediately
3
10%
Fired at end of season
18
62%
Keep him 1 more year
8
28%
 
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby Hnoz » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:34 pm

Anybody else like to place a vote !
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby skyhops » Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:52 pm

Can I vote again? Who cares about the upcoming class possibly leaving Steele's recruiting has been below average in his tenure as coach. I know Miller would come back in a heartbeat, but from what I hear Xavier probably would not ask him back. Too bad he was our best coach and regretted leaving. Supposedly, daddy in law will not be happy if he "leaves". He will have a lot of D2 interest.
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby kyzrex » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:27 pm

I wonder if it is even a possibility that X won’t need to fire him because he resigns? A man can hope, can’t he?
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby longliveskip » Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:34 pm

skyhops wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:52 pm
Can I vote again? Who cares about the upcoming class possibly leaving Steele's recruiting has been below average in his tenure as coach. I know Miller would come back in a heartbeat, but from what I hear Xavier probably would not ask him back. Too bad he was our best coach and regretted leaving. Supposedly, daddy in law will not be happy if he "leaves". He will have a lot of D2 interest.
i'm not sure why everyone is so infatuated with MIller. what he allowed to happen at Arizona and what has come out - Xavier ain't touching him with a 10 ft pole, no matter what he did for X when he was here. we all know when Mack left that MIller randomly showed up on campus hoping to get an "interview" and Xavier politely said "thanks, but no thanks."

either way, if we don't make the tourney, i also agree and don't care if this next year's class goes "bye-bye", Xavier needs to move on. he's had 4 years. that's twice as long as Brannen got. we've seen enough.
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby Biggernlife » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:56 pm

In my opinion, all facets of the Xavier play on offense and defense are doing well except for one. Our two 3-point shooters, especially Johnson, have been shooting subpar, very subpar. Zero for ten combined in last game against Providence. Then go back over the past 4 or so games and look especially at Johnson 3-point shooting. Something is grossly wrong. Without his being able to hit at least 30 to 35 %, the team is in trouble against good teams.
Don't know what the solution is but opposing teams will collapse defensively around the basket to keep us from driving. Need to correct the 3-point shooting. Do you really think that is Steele's lack of coaching?



They seldom win the loose balls on the floor, they don’t usually rebound well as a team, they make lackadaisical bad angle passes,don’t play inside out hit the open man like they did in first 12 games. Slow to move the passes around (see Villanova, and Providence) Little help side D,if at all! Opposition is usually the tougher more aggressive team. Much of this and more is YES the coaching. Too many turnovers as well particularly at critical points and have given up the team concept,now it’s me,me,me
Telling it as I see it. It’s AWFUL!!!! Biggernlife
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby skyhops » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:18 pm

Not bringing intensity and only playing one half has been said over and over again by Steele, that is on him. Team is undisciplined on and off the court, just look at the inconsistent play.
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby ChitownSteve » Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:24 am

Simply put, Coach Steele does not have the skill set to sit in the 1st Chair of a Big East Program. There is no joy in making that statement because he has made significant contributions to the Xavier Program. However, those accomplishments were when he sat further South in that line of X’s Cintas Center chairs.

All of you know plenty about hoops, so I am not really telling you anything you do not know. Some of my reasons are as follows:

- Fails to rein in poor three point shooters. Those bad shots are wasted possessions and lead to opponent’s points.
- An inability to hold ball handlers accountable for repeated terrible decision making and sloppy passing.
- A glaring lack of proper use of timeouts to stymie scoring runs by opponents.
- Lack of objectivity when it comes to playing time. Talks one way to emphasize practice importance and barely gives some fellows any playing time. He is blinded by his favorites, which result in questionable substitution patterns.
- His players do not appear to develop as the Season progresses.
- Inconsistent Team performances - often abysmal at the start of games or fading down the stretch.

Having watched DePaul sink into the abyss many years ago, it was my belief that the 20-21 Season should have been it for Coach Steele. Time becomes of the essence to make the change. For various reasons he was allowed to Coach this year. That stated, ! hope Coach Steele and the Musketeers go on a tremendous run the remainder of the Season and prove me dead-bang wrong.

If they don’t, should we have any confidence in X’s AD to address what is obvious?
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby pdxmuskie » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:20 am

Substitution patterns alone is a major issue. There have been multiple games where coach pulled the 1 player playing at a high level and left others in the lineup that were playing horribly.

I'm all for making changes when things are not going well but to pull the 1 guy that was actually scoring and playing defense and leaving the 1 or 2 others that are making obvious mistakes is insane.

I can't think of a redeeming quality about his coaching at this point.
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby muskieman » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:50 am

pdxmuskie wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:20 am
Substitution patterns alone is a major issue. There have been multiple games where coach pulled the 1 player playing at a high level and left others in the lineup that were playing horribly.

I'm all for making changes when things are not going well but to pull the 1 guy that was actually scoring and playing defense and leaving the 1 or 2 others that are making obvious mistakes is insane.

I can't think of a redeeming quality about his coaching at this point.
Last night I saw Adam pulled after he had a string of good plays and at first I was upset until I saw how he was huffing and puffing before they took him out. I think sometimes they play one guy too long and one guy, not enough. Last night I liked the combo of Zach and Edwards and thought in the first half he gave X some added energy and Jack some needed rest. I hoped after Jack was fouled out by the refs he would come in but I remember Pete's remark that coaches like to put newer players in success positions and not in crunch time.
I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em.
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Re: You still think Steele should have a job ! Please vote

Postby longliveskip » Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:29 pm

muskieman wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:50 am
pdxmuskie wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:20 am
Substitution patterns alone is a major issue. There have been multiple games where coach pulled the 1 player playing at a high level and left others in the lineup that were playing horribly.

I'm all for making changes when things are not going well but to pull the 1 guy that was actually scoring and playing defense and leaving the 1 or 2 others that are making obvious mistakes is insane.

I can't think of a redeeming quality about his coaching at this point.
Last night I saw Adam pulled after he had a string of good plays and at first I was upset until I saw how he was huffing and puffing before they took him out. I think sometimes they play one guy too long and one guy, not enough. Last night I liked the combo of Zach and Edwards and thought in the first half he gave X some added energy and Jack some needed rest. I hoped after Jack was fouled out by the refs he would come in but I remember Pete's remark that coaches like to put newer players in success positions and not in crunch time.
he did have Edwards sitting at the scorer's table for either most of the 2nd or 3rd OT ready to check in(Can't remember which) but there was never a dead ball so he sat there for almost the entire OT.

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