Who do you want as the next Head coach?

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Poll ended at Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:40 pm

Travis Steele
36
62%
John Brannen (Alabama and now at NKU)
3
5%
Porter Moser (Loyola Chicago)
2
3%
Ryan Odom (UMBC)
0
No votes
Nate Oats (Buffalo)
3
5%
Gregg Marshall
0
No votes
Sean Miller
8
14%
Thad Matta
1
2%
Pat Kelsey
1
2%
Other
4
7%
 
Total votes: 58
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby slysyl » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:17 pm

It makes no difference who X hires; human life can be very unpredictable so no one can say they will stay 1 year or 30 years. Hire STEELE and get on with it.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby webxu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:03 pm

jct1941 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:48 pm
Anti-Homer - It seems you where a "luke warm fan of Mack" so I have to remind you of his first year that was on the Xavier website. This is right from the site' Chris Mack, the 09-10 Basketball Times Rookie Coach of the Year, was 26-9 in his first season as Xavier's head coach. He was the winningest first-year head coach in Division 1 for that season and tied the school record for the most ever by an XU rookie head coach (26). Mack was the only rookie head coach to lead his team into the 2010 NCAA tournament. In addition, Mack became the first Xavier head coach to guide XU to the NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 in his first season as coach. Mack led Xavier to a 26 win season, the first time in school history that was without at least two seniors on the roster. In addition, he accomplished that feat with NO RETURNING DOUBLE FIGURE SCORES FROM LAST SEASON. It was even more impressive record when you consider XU had played arguably its toughest schedule ever. l (At that time) think that you are not giving him enough credit. He did what 99% of us would do if you got 28 mill over 7 years. He is no different than our previous coaches did and it provided a lifetime security for his family and beyond. Trying to minimizing his job performance is ridiculous. Now, I am for continuity and I would like to see Steele as out new coach. Go Xavier!
After having time to contemplate this all I feel better now. I got to thinking and looking at what Mack had actually accomplished at X and there may have been some inflated results ( inflated may not be the best word fortuitous maybe is better?) anyway.

2009-10 Sweet 16 won with Miller's guys ( and had some rough outings all season we almost lost to Dayton at home.. gasp)
2010-11 Won A10 lost to Marquette first round
2011-12 Sweet 16 again Miller's core guys ( we all know the regular season) Beat a 15 seed to get to S16..
2012-2013 Blah...
2013-2014 First 4 loss.
2014-15 Sweet 16, Beat a 14 seed to get there.
2015-16 Best team to date, 2nd round exit.
2016-17 Elite 8 Trevon played out of his mind. (Arizona game best game he coached by far)
2017-18 Best team X has had.. 2nd round exit.

So in looking, we really lucked out with at least 2 of those sweet 16's not saying we wouldn't have won against Duke (12) and Baylor (15), but it would have been much harder. So in summation, the results may be skewed a bit on the greatness of Chris Mack.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby MuskyDore » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:55 pm

Why are we not discussing Musselman??

Oh I forgot... I'm a Louisville fan according to most of you, so I should be ignored.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby X-Expert » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:17 pm

For those wanting Alford nah baby nah-thank God. UCLA fanbase are disappointed
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby X-Expert » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:25 pm

webxu wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:03 pm
jct1941 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:48 pm
Anti-Homer - It seems you where a "luke warm fan of Mack" so I have to remind you of his first year that was on the Xavier website. This is right from the site' Chris Mack, the 09-10 Basketball Times Rookie Coach of the Year, was 26-9 in his first season as Xavier's head coach. He was the winningest first-year head coach in Division 1 for that season and tied the school record for the most ever by an XU rookie head coach (26). Mack was the only rookie head coach to lead his team into the 2010 NCAA tournament. In addition, Mack became the first Xavier head coach to guide XU to the NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 in his first season as coach. Mack led Xavier to a 26 win season, the first time in school history that was without at least two seniors on the roster. In addition, he accomplished that feat with NO RETURNING DOUBLE FIGURE SCORES FROM LAST SEASON. It was even more impressive record when you consider XU had played arguably its toughest schedule ever. l (At that time) think that you are not giving him enough credit. He did what 99% of us would do if you got 28 mill over 7 years. He is no different than our previous coaches did and it provided a lifetime security for his family and beyond. Trying to minimizing his job performance is ridiculous. Now, I am for continuity and I would like to see Steele as out new coach. Go Xavier!
After having time to contemplate this all I feel better now. I got to thinking and looking at what Mack had actually accomplished at X and there may have been some inflated results ( inflated may not be the best word fortuitous maybe is better?) anyway.

2009-10 Sweet 16 won with Miller's guys ( and had some rough outings all season we almost lost to Dayton at home.. gasp)
2010-11 Won A10 lost to Marquette first round
2011-12 Sweet 16 again Miller's core guys ( we all know the regular season) Beat a 15 seed to get to S16..
2012-2013 Blah...
2013-2014 First 4 loss.
2014-15 Sweet 16, Beat a 14 seed to get there.
2015-16 Best team to date, 2nd round exit.
2016-17 Elite 8 Trevon played out of his mind. (Arizona game best game he coached by far)
2017-18 Best team X has had.. 2nd round exit.

So in looking, we really lucked out with at least 2 of those sweet 16's not saying we wouldn't have won against Duke (12) and Baylor (15), but it would have been much harder. So in summation, the results may be skewed a bit on the greatness of Chris Mack.
Totally agree-good for Mack but parlaying last three years (2 great regular seasons and 1 great tourney run) to a huge opportunity at Louisville. This recruiting class got him this opportunity and ironically, he had his worse class on his year out. I do think Mack did a great job recruiting but was never a great in-game coach but seemed to get better through the years. If Louisville and Pitino didn't get in trouble, Mack would not have gotten (or deserve) the raise that X offered him. Still would have liked to have him based on the trajectory but ok with him moving on.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby posaune » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:55 pm

MuskyDore wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:55 pm
Why are we not discussing Musselman??
I mentioned him in the "New Coach" thread, but nobody else must think he's worth discussing.

I will say I am (slowly) warming to Travis Steele.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby harryfe » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:19 am

If it is going to be Steele why hasn’t he been signed? need to start RECRUITING. If it is going to be some one else I can understand. Are they arguing over 50K. Afraid this program is going to be in a mess for a few years.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby skyhops » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:16 am

If they are going to hire Steele they should have done it immediately so I agree. Waiting only allows current and future recruits time to change their mind. Mack certainly didn’t waste anytime after he bailed.
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby mumuskie87 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:21 am

skyhops wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:16 am
If they are going to hire Steele they should have done it immediately so I agree. Waiting only allows current and future recruits time to change their mind. Mack certainly didn’t waste anytime after he bailed.
Agree on timing
As each day goes by, I'm thinking it won't be Steele
Now GC is down at the F4
Maybe Seth Greenberg is interested :roll:
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Re: Who do you want as the next Head coach?

Postby mumuskie87 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:40 am

X-Expert wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:17 pm
For those wanting Alford nah baby nah-thank God. UCLA fanbase are disappointed
3 S16's doesn't cut it at UCLA
Not when there are 11 NC banners hanging
Ben Howland got fired there and all he did is go to 3 straight F4's
Alford's record is underwhelming as a coach - 9 tournament appearances in 17 years and only 3 S 16's.
He would the X version of Tommy Tuberville, IMO
Thanks for your interest Steve but no thanks
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