Butler

[REF]

Oh, and by the way:

Matt Howard says: "Xavier; who?"

Shelvin Mack says: "Xavier; what?"

Keep on day dreaming fellas... you have a good program, but you aren't anything different than Butler; actually, Butler has the upper hand right now!

Pass the joint! Did Thad make a lateral move to X?

[Nildogg]

Virtually all the media blinked when Bobinski turned down that stupid mid-major award, acknowledging that Xavier's program is in fact a major program that plays in a conference that is somewhere between major and mid-major.

uh huh.... like I said... "you are what you are" and that's definitely not a Major, despite how much you want to believe it.

[xudash]

Virtually all the media blinked when Bobinski turned down that stupid mid-major award, acknowledging that Xavier's program is in fact a major program that plays in a conference that is somewhere between major and mid-major.

uh huh.... like I said... "you are what you are" and that's definitely not a Major, despite how much you want to believe it.

Well, we do believe it.

Now run back home to watch your team play in your old dust bin in front of 4,000 people against Northwestern Southeastern Wwisconsin Green Bay State with no tv coverage and next day page five coverage in the Star.

[Nildogg]

Funny thing is that that Butler has been on National TV more often this year than Xavier!

And by the way, nobody is saying Butler is a "major". We can play, and beat any Major out there if we are playing as we can - but it's obvious that the budget is not of "Major" quality. Thad left Butler for Xavier for $$$, just like that's why Thad left Xavier for a true MAJOR, in Ohio State!!

Nobody is saying that Butler can match your budget, or that it has a new facility (Hinkle is just fine with us, it is one of the best home court's in all of college basketball), or the local media coverage you get (Xavier's place in Cincinnatti is a much different market than Butler in Indianapolis) But as far as playing the game - you are no better than Butler. Oh, and the recruits we get are chosing Butler over Xavier, and fit our system well...

Write as many checks as you want, and throw around attendance numbers- in the end, its what happens on the floor that matters, and you can't trump Butler there!!

You are Xavier - not Ohio State!! (although we'll take either of you on the court!)

GET OVER YOURSELVES!!

[Filthy Chilean]

Look guys, Butler is a nice little program having a nice little run while beating 1 team worth mentioning.

And boodawg, before getting crazy about TTech beating KSt remember it was a conference game and KSt was on the road (any knowledgeable fan should understand). By the way, Xavier won again to a conference opponent on the road. You look like a moron trying to down play conference road victories.

Look at the comparison below one more time and really soak it in. Butler does not have one single victory ooc or (excuse my burst of laughter) in conference that can match up to Xavier.

Ball St (last place in the MAC), Indiana St (under .500 from the MVC), Evansville (last place in the MVC), Michigan (6-17), VT (14-10 from a top heavy ACC) and TTech (12-10). I will give you OSU out of pity. Simply pathetic yet you attempt to diminish Xavier's ooc schedule?

The Horizon League is rated 10th, the A10 8th. Both schools ranked first but Xavier with one less loss in league play. Come on man.

Xavier's ooc schedule included wins vs ranked IU and ranked KSt (by a landslide).

Enough, Butler will get theirs after we get the #3 seed and get the #6 seed (WHAT?? Why so low after a lofty #10 ranking????) boodawgs in the tournament. Besides, dayton collapsed last night at home to Doocane.

[_LH]

Butler is a very good mid major program. XU is a very good major program. Yes, Butler is overrated. National expersts have even stated as much. Butler is very capable of beating XU at Butler and would have no shot at Cintas. XU owned Butler when we were league mates and as far as programs go, XU is simply the better program right now.

Butler would finish 5th or 6th in the A10 this year, XU would no doubt run the table in the MCC (I mean Horizon). The programs XU has struggled with in league play would beat the teams Butler struggiled with in league play by 20 plus on any given night.

I like Butler and wish them well but they are not on XU's level. XU is no Duke either but they are clearly a better program than Butler. Sorry.

[xubrew]

butler's ranking is high partly because of default. to the voters, not losing is the most important thing, even if they aren't playing the strongest competition. i didn't believe for a second nevada was one of the ten best teams in the nation last year, yet they were ranked in the top ten. i didn't believe for a second that george washington was the 6th best team in the country in 2006, yet they were ranked #6. if a team keeps winning against mediocre competition, they're going to pass up teams that lose to top level competition.

having said all that, i think this year's butler team is better than last year's nevada team. they may not belong in the top ten, but they certainly belong in the top 20. they've had some close calls lately, but then again so have we. the teams xavier have been playing are arguably better, but with the exception of saint joseph's none of them are ncaa teams. i really think it's stupid if our whole argument against them is "the crappy teams we've been struggling against aren't as crappy as the crappy teams you've been struggling against."

butler is probably a little bored with their season. this often happens to teams that are in their situation of being really good themselves, and really safe for the ncaa tournament, yet they're undermatched every night. the same thing happened last year. i believe they lost four of their last seven or something like that, yet they still made the sweet sixteen and damn near took down florida. i do believe xavier is better, but butler would be no walk in the park. we'd have to play much better than we have in our last three games in order to beat them.

[xubrew]

jesus, people on this board make xavier fans look stupid.

[_LH]

I disagree, XU could play as they have in the last three games and beat Butler by 10.

There are also plenty of other arguments than our crappy opponents are better than their crappy opponents. Read the whole thread.

XU is a better team than Bulter and a better program than Butler. That is not a slam on Butler either. They are a good team and program and I would love to replace SLU with Butler.

[xubrew]

I disagree, XU could play as they have in the last three games and beat Butler by 10.

There are also plenty of other arguments than our crappy opponents are better than their crappy opponents. Read the whole thread.

XU is a better team than Bulter and a better program than Butler. That is not a slam on Butler either. They are a good team and program and I would love to replace SLU with Butler.

just so i understand the point you're trying to make here...

you're actually arguing that xavier would have an easier time with butler than they would with saint louis, saint joseph's, and charlotte?? the reason i ask is because none of those were decisive wins for us. we didn't beat them by ten either.