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Re: Crosstown

Postby XavierTragedy » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:09 pm

This game represents a reversal of previous seasons. X comes in playing much tougher competition and while UC is having a good year, X has played better teams (but maybe not have won). UC is on the upswing and wants this game in a big way, at home. I would be worried is X had handled Butler and Creighton (which they didn't) and would have come into this game a little too confident.

My take; X shoots well enough from the line, defends the three (while making enough for themselves) and Gaston plays a hell of a game down low (with O'Mara chipping in) to give X a 8-10 point win.

Ironically, I see Bernard and Gaston, two guys playing in their only shootout, being the difference. X is due to lay an @ss whooping on someone
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Re: Crosstown

Postby madness31 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:06 am

I predict X wins. This is a game of passion and energy. X has the superior talent which generally wins when combined with desire.

It is not surprising that X has struggled against top level talent this year. X, unfortunately, has had a tendency to get worse as the year goes on since Mack took over. He is a very good recruiter but he simply can't figure out how to get max production from players and often seems to zap the team of cohesion and energy as the season wears on. Mack has a great record but his success in the tournament is poor given the level of talent he has and the potential of the teams he has coached. It is my belief that X is stuck in high level mediocrity as long as Mack remains head coach. I would love him as a number 2 but he just can't get it done against top level competition. He struggles to improve players. Improvements are generally made in the offseason and flat to down the rest of the year.

It is time to look for our next head coach or accept a sweet 16 ceiling. That is respectable but personally I want more.
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Re: Crosstown

Postby muncie6569 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:38 am

madness31 wrote:I predict X wins. This is a game of passion and energy. X has the superior talent which generally wins when combined with desire.

It is not surprising that X has struggled against top level talent this year. X, unfortunately, has had a tendency to get worse as the year goes on since Mack took over. He is a very good recruiter but he simply can't figure out how to get max production from players and often seems to zap the team of cohesion and energy as the season wears on. Mack has a great record but his success in the tournament is poor given the level of talent he has and the potential of the teams he has coached. It is my belief that X is stuck in high level mediocrity as long as Mack remains head coach. I would love him as a number 2 but he just can't get it done against top level competition. He struggles to improve players. Improvements are generally made in the offseason and flat to down the rest of the year.

It is time to look for our next head coach or accept a sweet 16 ceiling. That is respectable but personally I want more.

Dump Mack???!? Really? Do you realize he was awarded College Coach of the Year last year? They don't just throw a dart to pick a winner of that.
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Re: Crosstown

Postby kyzrex » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:18 am

Madness31 is living up to his name.

I'd put X, and Chris Mack, in the top 3....along with Villanova and Gonzaga....of small private school programs in the country.

I think that he has unrealistic expectations that are not founded on reality as much as they are founded on as sense of entitlement.
But he is certainly welcome to his own opinion, and I doubt that any facts might change an opinion that is based on them as much as it is based on personal expectations and bias.
#WHYNOTX?
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Re: Crosstown

Postby bluegrass » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:26 am

UC has never beaten a ranked Xavier team in 8 tries. We've never beaten them 4 straight. Something has to give tonight. As much as I hate to say it, I think it's their year.
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Re: Crosstown

Postby oldhoopster » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:19 pm

Not so sure I don't agree with Madness. We run few offensive sets and are very predictable. We haven't developed a big man in years. I'm just not sure Chris can get X to that next level (final four) either. Not saying he hasn't done a good job or isn't a good coach, but seems other coaches do more with less talent.
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Re: Crosstown

Postby ChitownSteve » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:01 pm

oldhoopster wrote:Not so sure I don't agree with Madness. We run few offensive sets and are very predictable. We haven't developed a big man in years. I'm just not sure Chris can get X to that next level (final four) either. Not saying he hasn't done a good job or isn't a good coach, but seems other coaches do more with less talent.
How do you characterize James Farr?
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Re: Crosstown

Postby oldhoopster » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:32 pm

Farr wasn't much of a factor until he took the role of a rebounder in his senior year. I'm not sure he was developed but was just moved off the three point line. Jalen certainly didn't develop, nor did McLean, Robinson, Freeze or others, even though they may have produced some and been serviceable enough because of those around em.

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