Is the one-and-done rule bad?

[_LH]

Gary,

The D league does not solve the problem that a true farm system would. In a real farm system format, the Bulls could sign a player out of high school on potential like MLB scouts do, pay them a signing bonus and retain their full rights while paying them $20,000.00 a year until the are ready to make the big league team. A viable farm system would allow players with no interest in attending college to get paid while developing.

Now, the NBA can't draft an high school kid and place him in their minor league system.

The players union does not want to adapt this format as they fear GM's and coaches would start sending verterans "down" to the minors.

[Biff Tannen]

To be eligible a "student" athlete needs to take 12 credit hours, pass 6 of them and have a gpa of 1.7 after their first quarter or semester. After the first quarter of semester they must have a cumulative gpa of 2.0 to eligible. So if a non first semester/ quarter freshman takes 12 credits and passes 6 with a semester GPA of 1.0 as long as their cumulative GPA is at least 2.0 they will be eligible. They also have had to have passed a certain percentage of their degree completed. I think going into their 3rd year they have to have 40% of their degree completed, but not entirely sure, and this rule may have changed

Thats as much info I could get about eligibility requirements from some former D1ers I know.

[MuskieCinci]

If the NBA had a legit farm system that would kill college basketball. College baseball is not very popular and is hardly ever on television except during their world series. College baseball does not get any headlines and is barely even discussed on shows likes Sportscenter until their world series. If the NBA had a farm system, I predict the same would happen with college basketball.

[_LH]

It would not kill college basketball in the least. It (college basketball) is too established now to fade away just because a few players that would only be around for a year anyway would now play in a minor league system instead of college.

[_LH]

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasket ... y/10832408

[Wisexuowl]

Bob Knight: "It's one of the worst things to happen to college basketball. The reality is that a player only has to earn a 1.0 grade average to be eligible, and by second semester, he's not even interested. What kind of integrity is that?"

Accepting Knight's 1.0 GPA to be eligible after one semester, and accepting Biff's post that a player needs to pass just six hours, I figure Player X can go to OSU (where they care little about graduating player) he takes 12 hours, drops six, and gets a pair of D's in Gospel Music and Golf (Both are offered at OSU) and bingo, he has a 1.5 (making him eligible for the second quarter). Before the third quarter starts (post NCAA Final Four), he's gone.
And in all likihood, he didn't even go to class the second quarter.
So, now you tell me just how does his year in college give him the maturity at age 19 to play with his elders that he didn't have at age 18.
Probably will be able to play a better Nitendo game since he won't be doing anything else very constructive
I hope some kid's lawyer wins a court case and put an end to this.
Oh yeah, and there is a difference between the NFL rule that was upheld (wrongly I thought) and the NBA rule. The footballers have had their rule for like forever.
BTW ... name me the first player who left college to play pro under the "hardship rule."
Hint ... maybe the second best player to ever play against Xavier.

[wkrq59]

Take the one-and-done, unbridled AAU conduct and the NBA's all-for-the-greater-greed and you have the basis for what is poisoning college basketball today.
No, Owl, the NCAA can't do a damn thing about one-and-done in its present form. The NCAA can't but its member institutions and their presidents can individually. They can make it mandatory for a student to remain in school for at least three years to receive a grant-in-aid. But they would have to make that grant a three-year contract, not a one-year renewable.
The NCAA could if it chose stop one-and-done in its tracks. Very simply declare any student athlete who refuses to sign a three-year agreement to remain in school, ineligible for post-season play of any kind, even conference tournaments. You'd see coaches stop recruiting them almost before the ink dries on the legislation. Hey, the NCAA is not denying a kid the right to make a living. It's not keeping a player in servitude, it's simply saying "We will not be a minor league, developmental league or training ground for the NBA. Period.
The NBA has long held the carrot out to the young --predominantly African American--men that it is the way out of a disadvantaged life. The fact that only a select few make it to the NBA taints the whole dream . If the NBA Players Assn. doesn't like the fact that kids are eligible right out of high school, let 'em strike. They tried it before and failed. If the GMs don't like it, fine. Tell 'em to shut up and do a better job of scouting.
Besides, the NBA is slowly becoming a league of hackers in the guise of hard fouls. They'll end up just as hockey did before the rules were changed.

[wkrq59]

BTW ... name me the first player who left college to play pro under the "hardship rule."
Hint ... maybe the second best player to ever play against Xavier.
#FF0000

I know the kid went to Detroit and I think ended up playing in Denver but for the life of me I can't recall his name --There have been a helluva lot of good players who played against Xavier bettern than this kid after Oscar Robertson--Wally Szczerbiak was one, Adrian Dantley was another, Wes Unseld was another, Kyle Corver was another, the Gonzaga Crybaby was another--naw belay that--Hell, Jack Twyman was another. Or Wayne Embry, Tommy Amaker, Danny Ferry, Adrian Smith, --Damn I wish I could remember the guy's name.

[Wisexuowl]

A waste is a terrible thing to mind, eh Q?

[Masterofreality]

Would that be Spencer Haywood, Q?

Beaknose is taking the one and done to a new level- to the point that he's going to start losing scholly's next year. He would have this year but for Ohio State's bogus "plan for imrovement" submitted to get around their poor APR score this year.

I don't mind if Xavier recruits an occasional one and done, but you can't build a consistent program that way.