we got you, sky, just like others hated Skip, Matta, Miller, we all know you hate Travis
SO while everyone hopes for a great season, you and your friend will be our Debbie Downers again.
we got you, sky, just like others hated Skip, Matta, Miller, we all know you hate Travis
While I have been mystified and, at times, very frustrated with Steele's substitution patterns and game mgmt. over the last three years, I have not concluded that he isn't D1 material. He was young when he took over and the stops and starts due to Covid make any determination based on last year incomplete. Not minimizing the issues---like two season-ending collapses.skyhops wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:13 amMM, I don't hate "Travis", I like most I know think he is over his head and is not a top level D1 coach. We have had five good ones in a row and we were bound to hit a bump in the road with a hire. I unlike you have higher standards for the program, but I do admire your blind love for the program and "Travis". Average 19 wins, three wins below .500 in BE, and no NCAA tournaments is just unacceptable as is hearing used car salesman saying each year that we are going to run more, pass more, and practice harder. Blah, blah, blah. Good try MM
I agree with your assessment of Travis, AirJordan, and do think barring some devastating injuries Travis must prove himself this year. He has guys that have stayed and it is to be hoped that did it for the team. I think Sky needs to understand that CONSTANT cheap shots at Travis don't normally come from a person claiming to be a fan or even a person that is critical of some aspect of a team. Constant cheap shots are just boring.AirJordan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:51 amWhile I have been mystified and, at times, very frustrated with Steele's substitution patterns and game mgmt. over the last three years, I have not concluded that he isn't D1 material. He was young when he took over and the stops and starts due to Covid make any determination based on last year incomplete. Not minimizing the issues---like two season-ending collapses.skyhops wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:13 amMM, I don't hate "Travis", I like most I know think he is over his head and is not a top level D1 coach. We have had five good ones in a row and we were bound to hit a bump in the road with a hire. I unlike you have higher standards for the program, but I do admire your blind love for the program and "Travis". Average 19 wins, three wins below .500 in BE, and no NCAA tournaments is just unacceptable as is hearing used car salesman saying each year that we are going to run more, pass more, and practice harder. Blah, blah, blah. Good try MM
But, any coach in his situation, deserves a fair chance to grow into the job. Clearly, this is a year we all need to see improvement. I do think this year's team has an abundance of talent. There are always going to be questions so while I think of this team as talented, lots could go wrong. Will returning players perform consistently with prior years? Will injuries derail key players? What happens to the locker room after a couple of tough losses? Those are questions with any team, not just X. And, of course, none of what X is doing to improve occurs in a vacuum. It is safe to assume that all the other teams in the B.E. are also trying to get better. We all know little about what those teams are doing.
So, while I have questions and definitely understand from where you, AH and others are coming, I don't think it is obvious that Steele lacks coaching chops. He's recruited new talent and convinced, in some way, fifth year players to return. It does not, to me, appear the players think of him as the "used car salesman" you describe. Granted, in the end, your assessment of Steele may be accurate. But, at his point in the season, I'm not ready to concede the argument.
I am excited for the season to start and, at the same time, a little nervous as to how Steele will perform.
and yet you are an expert doing it without being a fan.
Mman,muskieman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:50 pmwe got you, sky, just like others hated Skip, Matta, Miller, we all know you hate Travis. It got old when they expressed it every game, even when X was winning, and it has gotten old with you, and someone else always remembers to slam the coach on every little thing
. You know every coach uses the same coach speak!
SO while everyone hopes for a great season, you and your friend will be our Debbie Downers again.![]()
Mman,muskieman wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:47 pmI agree with your assessment of Travis, AirJordan, and do think barring some devastating injuries Travis must prove himself this year. He has guys that have stayed and it is to be hoped that did it for the team. I think Sky needs to understand that CONSTANT cheap shots at Travis don't normally come from a person claiming to be a fan or even a person that is critical of some aspect of a team. Constant cheap shots are just boring.AirJordan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:51 amWhile I have been mystified and, at times, very frustrated with Steele's substitution patterns and game mgmt. over the last three years, I have not concluded that he isn't D1 material. He was young when he took over and the stops and starts due to Covid make any determination based on last year incomplete. Not minimizing the issues---like two season-ending collapses.skyhops wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:13 amMM, I don't hate "Travis", I like most I know think he is over his head and is not a top level D1 coach. We have had five good ones in a row and we were bound to hit a bump in the road with a hire. I unlike you have higher standards for the program, but I do admire your blind love for the program and "Travis". Average 19 wins, three wins below .500 in BE, and no NCAA tournaments is just unacceptable as is hearing used car salesman saying each year that we are going to run more, pass more, and practice harder. Blah, blah, blah. Good try MM
But, any coach in his situation, deserves a fair chance to grow into the job. Clearly, this is a year we all need to see improvement. I do think this year's team has an abundance of talent. There are always going to be questions so while I think of this team as talented, lots could go wrong. Will returning players perform consistently with prior years? Will injuries derail key players? What happens to the locker room after a couple of tough losses? Those are questions with any team, not just X. And, of course, none of what X is doing to improve occurs in a vacuum. It is safe to assume that all the other teams in the B.E. are also trying to get better. We all know little about what those teams are doing.
So, while I have questions and definitely understand from where you, AH and others are coming, I don't think it is obvious that Steele lacks coaching chops. He's recruited new talent and convinced, in some way, fifth year players to return. It does not, to me, appear the players think of him as the "used car salesman" you describe. Granted, in the end, your assessment of Steele may be accurate. But, at his point in the season, I'm not ready to concede the argument.
I am excited for the season to start and, at the same time, a little nervous as to how Steele will perform.
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