Florida big man get release

[madness31]

Happy might be a stretch but content works. I was simply pointing out that Kennny not working hard the past summer could actually have positive implications for this season and next. Obviously it would have been great to beat K-St and advance. I suspect X would have beaten Butler and actually made their first final 4 but you don't know if an improved Kenny would have translated into a win against K-St. It would have changed the game but maybe X loses in regulation by 10 because the focus is different?

Once a 7 footer has a strong year it is very possible for him to go pro. If Kenny put up strong numbers last year he might have left with Crawford and Love. It would be hard to save this season without a post presence. If Kenny plays well this year X makes another run in the tourney and if he doesn't it is likely an NIT invitation we can expect.

I choose to look at the positive implications of Kenny's previous lack of effort. I hope he doesn't have to regret it for the rest of his life if the NBA never comes calling but if he works hard enough these last 2 years I suspect he will still get his shot.

[bbaker06]

Whatever you are drinking/smoking, please send some my way. Kenny was simply overmatched athletically in the K-State game. I'm not sure any amount of work would have led to more playing time in that game. Also, I severely doubt he could have had a good enough year last year to jump to the NBA. He couldn't even start over Jason Love.

[Pierre Dracot]

Once a 7 footer has a strong year it is very possible for him to go pro. If Kenny put up strong numbers last year he might have left with Crawford and Love. It would be hard to save this season without a post presence. If Kenny plays well this year X makes another run in the tourney and if he doesn't it is likely an NIT invitation we can expect.

By no means is Kenny Frease the key to Xavier's season. But if he is, Xavier is in big trouble.

The keys to the season, and positive ones they will be--as in Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight--are Holloway and Lyons--and, possibly, a freshman or two.

What you're forgetting about Frease is that, even if he scores a dozen points and has 10 rebounds, he will have allowed the opposing teams 25+ points, due to offensive fouls, turnovers, and inability to jump or defend.

[somebody]

For whatever reason a link to an article about a Florida player being released is posted here on this Xavier (!?) discussion board. And golly gee, guess what, it immediately turns into another rehash discussion on the merits of Kenny Frease, a topic seldom discussed here ... NOT ... but cleverly disguised by the topic title this time! Oh yeah, I forgot ... it is offseason and now I remember why I don't visit the board very often in offseason. But glad I did ... sure would have hated to miss all this latest news on one of our players.

[Mr. Neutral]

So, is there any connection between the former Florida player and X? Were we ever involved in his recruiting? Did he indicate that we were one of the schools he was looking at?

[madness31]

I believe some of you have forgotten a couple recent 7 footers from OSU that had 1 mediocre season and left to play professionally. Kenny is very capable of putting up those numbers and if that is all it takes for a 7 footer to go pro then I suspect Kenny will achieve it. Fouling is definitely an area Frease must work on but getting in shape will definitely help with that. The TO improved toward the end of the season and should be much less of an issue this season.

As long as Frease is not seriously hurt while at X and does play through his senior year he will average at least 12 points and 7.5 rebounds a game during at least one of the next two years. This is an easy assumption to make as long as you know the game of basketball. The skills are all there, it is a matter of desire and being mentally prepared. I suspect 2+ blocks and assists will also happen.

And yes a great season does depend on Kenny. The team can be good without him and go to the NIT or maybe get a 12 seed but I doubt the guards will be strong enough to carry the team without a true center and with developing post players. Latham and Robinson could surprise enough to make me wrong but without one of them steping up big Kenny will be needed. McLean can only play one of the post spots and Taylor is just a serviceable sub. I'm not saying Kenny has to dominate but play well and provide about 8 and 8 with solid D. I'm guessing McKenzie will be red shirted partially because of the incident and partially to smooth out the classes and let him bulk up a bit.

[finalfourorbust]

Once a 7 footer has a strong year it is very possible for him to go pro. If Kenny put up strong numbers last year he might have left with Crawford and Love. It would be hard to save this season without a post presence. If Kenny plays well this year X makes another run in the tourney and if he doesn't it is likely an NIT invitation we can expect.

By no means is Kenny Frease the key to Xavier's season. But if he is, Xavier is in big trouble.

The keys to the season, and positive ones they will be--as in Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight--are Holloway and Lyons--and, possibly, a freshman or two.

What you're forgetting about Frease is that, even if he scores a dozen points and has 10 rebounds, he will have allowed the opposing teams 20+ points, due to offensive fouls, turnovers, and inability to jump or defend.

I agree. His defense concerns me more than his offense.

[muskiefan17]

cant believe this NBA BS madness is throwing out, what if KF tears his ACL tommorow and is out for the entire season? Then it would have been just fine if he had a great year last year and for some idiotic reason went to the NBA. If he's in that K-State game it is a very different game, i watched the replay yesterday and the OTs for K-State were primarily focused in the paint, with ATay and DJ going up against players like Kelly, Colon, and Samuels. Frease would have been of tremendous help and shifted the focus to the tired legs of Pullen and Clemente. Credit Martin for the obvious effort to get it inside, he realized the mismatch and won the game exploiting it.

[madness31]

And if Brown didn't leave X wins easily. Should we forever hate Brown too? Kenny made a bad decision to not work hard but I just don't see a reason to hold a bad decision against someone. My other point is we cannot know if this decision had a good or bad impact on X. Maybe Kenny would have been valuable in OT but the game would have been very different if he was playing so OT probably would not have happened. If the team won more games because Frease was better the match-up probably would never have happened. Maybe X gets upset in Round 1 or 2. Maybe Frease works extremely hard and is there physically but still needs another year to mature before there is a meaningful impact on his game. Stop hating, last year was a good year and Kenny seems to be doing all he can to make this coming season another great year.

He will be a very good offensive player and a solid defender as long as he continues to go after it. There will be guys that are too quick for him or have an outside game that he will not be able to guard but he will be fine against a majority of post players. Oden looked like a fool against Duncan and Cage and he was considered a dominant defender. I'm not saying Frease will be as good a defender as Oden but that it is understandable if he struggles against certain opponents.

[muskieman]

If "If and buts were candy and nuts" Kenny is getting ready for a new season and we all expect good things...well some of us do.