Transfers

[joe abe]

Canty and Latham are gonners!!!Good or not so good???

[xu39]

This doesn't sound good to me, but what do I know? X recruited them, so X obviously wanted them. I just wish these guys were more patient. Do they not see themselves getting more playing time in 2011-2012 and in the future? I don't really understand why these two are not being more patient. Did they think they deserved more playing time this year? And if they did think they deserved more playing this year, then who do they think they are better than? Everybody that played more minutes than these guys this year deserved more minutes than these guys.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/xavier/2011 ... nsferring/

Xavier freshmen Jay Canty and Jordan Latham are leaving the men’s basketball program, the school announced today.

“We appreciate the efforts on and off the floor that both Jay and Jordan made in their time at Xavier,” coach Chris Mack said in a release. “We wish each of them the best as they move forward in their college careers.”

Latham, a 6-8 forward from Baltimore, Md., played in 16 games as a freshman, averaging 0.5 points and 0.8 rebounds in 4.8 minutes per game. He missed three games with the team down the stretch (Charlotte, St. Louis, and the game against Dayton in the A-10 Tournament) because Mack said he needed to take care of obligations as a student athlete.

Canty, a 6-6 guard/forward from Jamestown, N.C., played in 17 games as a freshman, averaging 1.5 points and 0.8 rebounds in 7.4 minutes per game. He was sidelined with a stress fracture in his right foot for 12 games during his rookie campaign.

[Xpert]

Disappointing for sure, wish they would have stayed. But, perhaps they know something we don't. Wish them luck.

Interesting though, I thought I remember reading somewhere a tweet of Latham's saying his eyes were opened to the amount of work he needs to put in. Which I thought was encouraging.

Too bad he isn't going to be putting in that work here. X has a history of molding freshman into "men." Sometimes it takes a few years. But transformation is never easy.

[RoseyMuskie]

Here's my take: I bet Canty figured he'd be behind Martin and Wells for the rest of his career, and didn't want to ride the bench. I think it could be as simple as that.

In terms of Latham, I just don't think he was a good fit at X. He struggled with the system, didn't know much about man-to-man defense, and may have been homesick.

I wish them both the best of luck, though, and trust Mack will bring in Bhullar/Stewart.

[jct1941]

Well with all the coaching changes (which happens every year) players are de-commiting and others are transferring from those schools. This year,though, might set a record for those two events. In our case, I still think that some transfers were inevitable. It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep 13 scholarship players HAPPY. In most games there is only 200 minutes to go around and four or five players ae not going to play much ala Canty, Latham, and McKenzie. I think Griffin will be a contributor next year given a full year to recover physically. I really hate to see Canty go because I think he was full of potential and would have been a very good player for us. But, players want to play. We all wondered why some of the walkons played more than the ship players. There had to be a reason and I trust the staff had good reason for that to happen. We will be alright. Go Xavier!

[Pierre Dracot]

No matter how you cut it, it's on the coach. At best, he wasted two valuable scholarships/roster spots due to poor judgment; at worst, he failed to give players a reasonable shake when it came to playing time. It's all the more inexcusable, given that Xavier's bench was ridiculously short--to the point that it eliminated any chance of success in the post-season. A team with three or four productive players, each of whom plays 40 minutes per game, is a recipe for disaster. That's how I characterize Xavier's last two games: a disaster.

[Xpert]

No matter how you cut it, it's on the coach. At best, he wasted two valuable scholarships/roster spots due to poor judgment; at worst, he failed to give players a reasonable shake when it came to playing time. It's all the more inexcusable, given that Xavier's bench was ridiculously short--to the point that it eliminated any chance of success in the post-season. A team with three or four productive players, each of whom plays 40 minutes per game, is a recipe for disaster. That's how I characterize Xavier's last two games: a disaster.

RE: Canty, I suspect the same Rosey.

Pierre, that is a rather simplistic look on the situation, you and I are not “insiders” to the program so what you said is pure speculation. Yes, Mack is a factor in most everything with the team, but there is a thing called personal accountability. And, the Latham tweet I referenced above, points to someone admitting that they needed to put in more work. Much like Kenny realized a year earlier, Latham admitted to not doing his due diligence.

I was disappointed we didn’t see more of Canty and Latham but do you really think Mack didn’t want a deeper bench? Canty unfortunately was injured which apparently stalled his progression, and Latham evidently didn’t put in the work by his own admission, to say nothing of his “academic” suspension from the team. What is a fact is that we lost Redford, who is no world beater, but is a solid contributor and has a place, (which was desperately needed this year). And Martin, our best recruit, was gone. Those two would have completely changed the dynamic of our team.

[Joel]

We've got our thoughts on the situation up here. We'll flesh it out later in the day as the situation develops. Briefly though, I don't see this as a failure of the coaching staff. You never know what is going to happen when an 18-year-old kid leaves home, maybe for the first time. A program's situation is continually changing, and players are sometimes brought in to address needs that end up going away, or the player doesn't fit how he and the staf thought he would. It happens all over the place every year. To characterize this as any part of a disaster is crazy.

[skyhops]

I think we can all admit that Canty should have seen more PT at the end of the season especially with his defensive ability. Robinson played the 3 the last two games and was not effective. More I can understand, but two in the same class causes concern.

[Theology73]

Canty and Latham are gonners!!!Good or not so good???

Looks like everyone else focused on the "not so good". The good is having two scholarships available. I believe this coaching staff has the talent to make the most of that opportunity.