Who is ready to talk about next season???

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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby PT71 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:55 am

skyhops wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:20 am
Looks like Bishop and Tandy are going to be studs, but that can be said for the last two classes. It is difficult for frosh to make an immediate impact. Hopefully Q and Naji will find a jump shot.
Did you see how well Akinjo and McClung play for Geo.?? Ewing is "biting the bullet" this year sticking with these two...they are tough!!
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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby MOSQUETERO » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:25 am

I don't think we can outshoot any team in the BE so why do we insist on a run and shoot offense. I think our personnel marginally allows for us to work the clock down and take a shot. Also those last three minutes were the most painful three minutes to watch. We looked like a completely different team.
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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby Xavier2005 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:32 am

Coaches build programs for the short term or long term. There are maybe 10 to 15 major programs which re load and re load every year. Because those programs have a major winning coach , who has been there a long time, which players commit to. The great players commit to "a coach"...not a school . X will never have a coach for the long haul, or the long term. X is a stepping stone to the next "top tier" programs. X will always re load for a few years, lose the coach, then have to re build for several years. It is a cycle of re build, re load, re build, re load etc and thus the quality of the recruits will vary greatly from year to year. The next season talk and recruiting will always be in a state of major fluctuation.
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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby True_Blue » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:32 pm

Xavier2005 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:32 am
Coaches build programs for the short term or long term. There are maybe 10 to 15 major programs which re load and re load every year. Because those programs have a major winning coach , who has been there a long time, which players commit to. The great players commit to "a coach"...not a school . X will never have a coach for the long haul, or the long term. X is a stepping stone to the next "top tier" programs. X will always re load for a few years, lose the coach, then have to re build for several years. It is a cycle of re build, re load, re build, re load etc and thus the quality of the recruits will vary greatly from year to year. The next season talk and recruiting will always be in a state of major fluctuation.
What is the difference between the long haul and the long term. Explain...
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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby Anti-Homer » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:15 pm

True_Blue wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:32 pm
Xavier2005 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:32 am
Coaches build programs for the short term or long term. There are maybe 10 to 15 major programs which re load and re load every year. Because those programs have a major winning coach , who has been there a long time, which players commit to. The great players commit to "a coach"...not a school . X will never have a coach for the long haul, or the long term. X is a stepping stone to the next "top tier" programs. X will always re load for a few years, lose the coach, then have to re build for several years. It is a cycle of re build, re load, re build, re load etc and thus the quality of the recruits will vary greatly from year to year. The next season talk and recruiting will always be in a state of major fluctuation.
What is the difference between the long haul and the long term. Explain...
No, No No. please don't. Nothing to see here folks. Just move along.
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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby X-Expert » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:31 pm

Xavier2005 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:32 am
Coaches build programs for the short term or long term. There are maybe 10 to 15 major programs which re load and re load every year. Because those programs have a major winning coach , who has been there a long time, which players commit to. The great players commit to "a coach"...not a school . X will never have a coach for the long haul, or the long term. X is a stepping stone to the next "top tier" programs. X will always re load for a few years, lose the coach, then have to re build for several years. It is a cycle of re build, re load, re build, re load etc and thus the quality of the recruits will vary greatly from year to year. The next season talk and recruiting will always be in a state of major fluctuation.
Xavier 2005 seems to be a non Xavier fan if you look at his post. All good its his turn. This is the time for non X fans to smile. X has had a ton of success since the Run with 3 E-8 and many S-16s. I'm just glad that X (stepping stone or not) is not like UC who has had the same coach for 10 years with 1 S-16. Hows that for the importance of having a consistent coach in one place. Take that further and he has 16 years HC experience with 1 S-16.
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Re: Who is ready to talk about next season???

Postby thecoach » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:47 am

You can debate rosters, coaches, et. al until your blue in the face, and likely all sides will have a shred of truth to their arguments. At the end of the day unless you're one of maybe 5 or 6 schools (of which Kentucky and Calipari are really the only ones in this area) you have to develop players and bring them along if you want to reload and be competitive to be near the top of your conference every year. When you start getting into the practice of using grad transfers fairly consistently you certainly can suit your immediate desire to win right away because you have a good compliment of "program" players around them, or you can continue to bring inexperienced guys along and plug them in with a slight immediate dilution, but believe in the promise that by year's end they may be better and the system sustains itself. If you rely on the former, it is generally at the expense of the latter. Steele kind of has inherited a roster that doesn't have a depth of experience in numbers that set it up well to win this year. He's obviously got a ton of true frosh next year so he's going to have to begin that process 2019-20 with those guys, and i'm sure his plan is they form the core of what he wants to do and they stay for 4 years. When grad transfers come in, and a kid who's a frosh,sop or junior all the sudden isn't playing near as much as he planned it's obviously not good for him, but it also cost the player in terms of development for next year. I think the folks who are calling for guys like Harden, James and Kennedy to be playing more minutes have a legitimate point. When you're a .500 team in Feb, you're likely not going anywhere so it's best to start seeing over some extended time what a guy has, and hopefully he seasons for next year. He's got some tricky roster issues to deal with assuming everyone comes back next year which is always a big question mark. He's going to have to play a lot of inexperienced kids next year who do not fall into the guys who do not need significant development to be impact players at d1 so it's coming whether anyone likes it or not. If Goodin and Scruggs come back next year, do you put Tandy at pg as a total green player and put 3 guards in? Lot of decisions to make on the lineups and what will work best. He's got a full slate of work ahead of him. Not every player is going to be a star, but you have to have full compliment of guys who do the dirty work and guard, rebound and have those final stellar years to keep it moving in the right direction. That's his mission. A typical fan thinks that using a couple scholly's for a 1 year guy is a small commitment of the roster, but when you're balancing classes and trying to develop young guys it's a lot more than meets the eye. A lot of teams anymore seem to hold one open to begin with so if it's 12 it means quite a bit when you consider injuries, defections, busts, etc. The proverbial tight rope.

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