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Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:19 pm
by muskieman
X4LIFE wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:10 pm
Maybe I did muskieman. And they were the last team in, had favorable matchups in the first and second round won, got some confidence and made the elite 8. Like I said they are going nowhere fast right now and if they don’t get a favorable matchup they will lose in the first round. I don’t think that’s a wrong assessment. It’s an honest one.
made on what the last two games? You must really have jumped off the Zona band wagon after their three losses if you were a zona fan

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:21 pm
by madness31
Generally top 10 and even top 25 teams do not get blown out. X might not be a top 25 team if Tre can't play efficient.

Of course that doesn't excuse the prior teams that have consistently been blown out by Nova. This gets back to coaching. Most top 25 and especially top 10 teams have very good coaches. The coaches make adjustments on the offensive and/or defensive ends to keep competitive. X doesn't do that. They stick with a losing game plan because that is what they know.

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:22 pm
by thecoach
I guess there are a number of ways to look at the game tonight. I never expected they would win, but they were humiliated. They build this game up each year like it's a big match up and again we didn't show up even for a run. Observations:

-Scruggs is absolutely awful defensively. He better be able to score a LOT because he will give up a lot of points.
-Do the faithful who believe Macura is an Nba player still want to stick with that?
-Naji played well considering the others, but also defensively needs a lot of schooling
-To bad Kanter is a 1 year guy
-1/3/1 against Nova, wtf
-Is Tb hurting, or are his averages coming back to his first 3 years?

You have to forget that game, but overall defensively this team really struggles against teams who attack them.

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:22 pm
by Anti-Homer
If you don't want to get even more depressed, do NOT look at the respective recruits for both teams next year.

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:23 pm
by X-Expert
olsingledigit wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:12 pm
Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:05 pm
olsingledigit wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:59 pm
For all of Mack’s accomplishments and they are many he cannot come within 20at Nova.
Agreed. I think he'd give up 20% of his salary to take Nova off the schedule. It's not even that he can't beat them. It's that it's not even a competition.
I guess everyone has their nemesis. Chris is our best coach ever and I am sure he loses more sleep over Nova than I do. It is even more frustrating in thatnlesser teams like Butler play very well against them. We are their Dayton.
Good call but at least Dayton would beat X at home. X has beaten Nova in BE at home I believe one time. This is Bengals vs Steelers stuff in last 5 years. Even Bengals have close games against them. Nova just a much better team. Their top 5 ranked are better than Xs top 5. Brunson over Bluitt, Miles over Macura, etc We win the bench

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:27 pm
by X4LIFE
muskieman wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:19 pm
X4LIFE wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:10 pm
Maybe I did muskieman. And they were the last team in, had favorable matchups in the first and second round won, got some confidence and made the elite 8. Like I said they are going nowhere fast right now and if they don’t get a favorable matchup they will lose in the first round. I don’t think that’s a wrong assessment. It’s an honest one.
made on what the last two games? You must really have jumped off the Zona band wagon after their three losses if you were a zona fan
I am a Mack fan, a Miller fan, a Matta fan, a Prosser fan, a Gillen fan. I am a fan of all current and former X coaches. And I’m a fan of X. Just because I am a fan does not mean I cannot think critically. And right now this team is in dire straits. And they better get their heads right quick.

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:36 pm
by thecoach
This team isn't in dire straits, the faithful have just gotten ahead of themselves in expectations. Going into the conference season we had really one strong road win at Wisconsin and they have now lost what 9 or 10 games? Best win is likely Uc and it was at home in their first road game. How good was the start, very good, but not as great when held under a microscope. I'll be most curious to see how we shoot the ball the rest of the season. %'s tend to even out. Hopefully this team hasn't shot it's best ball early, as defense is not likely to be it's strong suit.

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:45 pm
by mumuskie87
thecoach wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:36 pm
This team isn't in dire straits, the faithful have just gotten ahead of themselves in expectations. Going into the conference season we had really one strong road win at Wisconsin and they have now lost what 9 or 10 games? Best win is likely Uc and it was at home in their first road game. How good was the start, very good, but not as great when held under a microscope. I'll be most curious to see how we shoot the ball the rest of the season. %'s tend to even out. Hopefully this team hasn't shot it's best ball early, as defense is not likely to be it's strong suit.
Yep. No reason to jump off the ledge just yet. But might want to glance at the window to see it is unlatched.
If you want to see some folks jumping off the ledge, go read comments on the Butler Hoops blogs. After beating Nova, they have lost 3 straight, albeit to 3 decent teams. It's all relative.
Lot of ball to played - 13 conference games - 7 at home and 6 on the road.

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:45 pm
by X-Expert
thecoach wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:36 pm
This team isn't in dire straits, the faithful have just gotten ahead of themselves in expectations. Going into the conference season we had really one strong road win at Wisconsin and they have now lost what 9 or 10 games? Best win is likely Uc and it was at home in their first road game. How good was the start, very good, but not as great when held under a microscope. I'll be most curious to see how we shoot the ball the rest of the season. %'s tend to even out. Hopefully this team hasn't shot it's best ball early, as defense is not likely to be it's strong suit.
great comment. Was thinking today looking at their "quality wins". Wisconsin isn't good and I believe Northern Iowa is like 0-4 in their league. Marquette and Butler are good wins and they have to beat Creighton this weekend. Kanter has been a huge surprise after seeing his first four games

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:48 pm
by muskieman
madness31 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:21 pm
Generally top 10 and even top 25 teams do not get blown out. X might not be a top 25 team if Tre can't play efficient.

Of course that doesn't excuse the prior teams that have consistently been blown out by Nova. This gets back to coaching. Most top 25 and especially top 10 teams have very good coaches. The coaches make adjustments on the offensive and/or defensive ends to keep competitive. X doesn't do that. They stick with a losing game plan because that is what they know.
hard to change a game plan built around your two most prolific scorers and one that can add significant points from the three point line all who have an off night. Do you go away from what brought you to the dance? Do you tell Tre to stop shooting because you just play into the other teams hands when you bind the hands of your stars. X played man to man and they scored on us, went to the 1-3-1 and the 2-3 at times with little success, why because nova was being Nova and were shooting the ball .....do you have a defense that would have stopped Nova....didn't think so! They had three stars shoot well tonight Booth, Bridges and Brunson ...which one would your D have stopped. X beat them on the boards, even the O boards but shot 41%to 55% madness you have the same line every loss while forgetting that X has 15 wins. I am not satisfied with the loss tonight but I look to the larger picture while you just wanted to brag tomorrow at work and the guys didn't give you the chance.