Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Talk XU Men's basketball here...
User avatar
muskieman
Posts: 22191
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:34 pm
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby muskieman » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:59 pm

X4LIFE wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:56 pm
This team is going nowhere fast. I hope I’m wrong but, they better hope they get a favorable matchup in the tourney or they lose in the first round.
bet you said that last year about this time.
I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em.
X Factor
Posts: 180
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:17 am
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby X Factor » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:02 pm

muskieman wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:58 pm
X Factor wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:54 pm
muskieman wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:51 pm
good take aways for this game...the play of Naji and Scruggs as freshman . We will need them now X needs to figure out how to get JP and Tre back on their game. tonight they are 6-21 with 2 minutes to play
The play of Scruggs? He's thrown it right to Nova at least THREE times tonight leading to layups.
considering how he has played yes....he had two more TO's than JP and 3 more points and he played point.
5 turnovers is not a bright spot.
User avatar
olsingledigit
Posts: 5629
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:27 am
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby olsingledigit » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:04 pm

18% from 3. Only 3 3s made for X. Tre 1-5 from foul line
Dressed to the Nines - Last of the LHS Single Digits - Dedicated to John "The Beer Spiller" McCormick, my son-in-law who passed June, 2016 at age 44. Long time Xavier fanatic and friend of many Lew Hirt Members. RIP Mac Strong! We miss you.
Anti-Homer
Posts: 4828
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:53 pm
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby Anti-Homer » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:05 pm

olsingledigit wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:59 pm
For all of Mack’s accomplishments and they are many he cannot come within 20at Nova.
Agreed. I think he'd give up 20% of his salary to take Nova off the schedule. It's not even that he can't beat them. It's that it's not even a competition.
X4LIFE
Posts: 120
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:12 pm
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby X4LIFE » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:10 pm

Maybe I did muskieman. And they were the last team in, had favorable matchups in the first and second round won, got some confidence and made the elite 8. Like I said they are going nowhere fast right now and if they don’t get a favorable matchup they will lose in the first round. I don’t think that’s a wrong assessment. It’s an honest one.
mumuskie87
Posts: 11402
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:27 am
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby mumuskie87 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:10 pm

Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:05 pm
olsingledigit wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:59 pm
For all of Mack’s accomplishments and they are many he cannot come within 20at Nova.
Agreed. I think he'd give up 20% of his salary to take Nova off the schedule. It's not even that he can't beat them. It's that it's not even a competition.
I think Mack will say in his presser that Brunson told him to go "eff himself".
Oh...I'm sorry that's the other D1 coach in Cincinnati.
"Sports is a coffee break."
Al McGuire
"If someone offers to double your money, walk away. If he offers to make you 20 %, hear him out."
Al McGuire
User avatar
olsingledigit
Posts: 5629
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:27 am
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby olsingledigit » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:12 pm

Anti-Homer wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:05 pm
olsingledigit wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:59 pm
For all of Mack’s accomplishments and they are many he cannot come within 20at Nova.
Agreed. I think he'd give up 20% of his salary to take Nova off the schedule. It's not even that he can't beat them. It's that it's not even a competition.
I guess everyone has their nemesis. Chris is our best coach ever and I am sure he loses more sleep over Nova than I do. It is even more frustrating in thatnlesser teams like Butler play very well against them. We are their Dayton.
Dressed to the Nines - Last of the LHS Single Digits - Dedicated to John "The Beer Spiller" McCormick, my son-in-law who passed June, 2016 at age 44. Long time Xavier fanatic and friend of many Lew Hirt Members. RIP Mac Strong! We miss you.
madness31
Posts: 2021
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby madness31 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:13 pm

Scruggs did some good things but he gives up so many fast break layups with his terrible passes that he is a huge liability.

JP had a terrible 2nd half. He fumbled the ball away 2 or 3 times and probably didn't have an assist. His shooting didn't drop but he continues to barely miss so I have no problem with him shooting.

Bluiett has not shot well the past 7 games. His shots are generally not that close either. Unfortunately he shoots too many times for this to end well for the team. He continues to rebound well but does nothing beyond that other than sometimes turning it over.

Gates is incredibly 1 dimensional but he doesn't hurt the team offensively so I'm in favor of starting Kanter over Bluiett until his shoulder heals.

X needs to put more pressure on the defense. It probably makes sense to play JP and Marshall together more since they can both drive to the rim as well as take open shots. Once Tre heals or gets out of his shooting slump (not sure what the real issue is) then he can command more time on the floor.

Kanter is consistent on offense, I'm not sure about his defense but the team is generally terrible on defense so at least he matches what he gives up.
mumuskie87
Posts: 11402
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:27 am
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby mumuskie87 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:16 pm

olsingledigit wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:47 pm
We don’t belong in the top 25
While this tough to watch, still think X is a top 25 team.
I mean Nova is ranked #1 and is playing on their home court.
[/quote]
Top 25 teams don’t lose by 30 anywhere and not to an average Providence team.
[/quote]

Digit - I'm channeling my inner Bill Clinton and say "I feel your pain".
Ed Cooley has had a solid program and actually has the 3rd best conference record in the New BE.
He always seems to get the most out his teams.
I'm less disappointed to losing to PC than getting beat 4 straight years by an average of 23 points each game
My advice to you -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LARx7M9s15w
"Sports is a coffee break."
Al McGuire
"If someone offers to double your money, walk away. If he offers to make you 20 %, hear him out."
Al McGuire
madness31
Posts: 2021
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Villanova Game thread 01/10/2018

Postby madness31 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:17 pm

Winning the 2nd most or even the most games is not the same as being the best coach. Mack is not even close to being a good coach. He is a good recruiter but he has no idea how to coach defense. His offensive sets are lacking and he doesn't even do a great job of getting the most out of his players.

The basketball community sees wins and tournament appearances and that is enough to validate him as a coach. In reality his coaching ability is very modest. He has brought a lot of talent here and he gets out of the way of his star players. That is the bulk of his coaching.

Return to “Xavier Men's Basketball”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 26 guests